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Posted: 4 years ago
#51

Originally posted by: notaquitter

For me I mostly ignore Sai vs Virat stuff. But about Pakhi and her character analysis, I am not able to stop commenting when I find views sympathising her 🙈 for the very reason that it was an informed decision as mentioned by the topics main post.


Nothing wrong in sympathising or analysing her character. I just should be more tolerable and open to new perspectives in regards to her character as I am with others in the show. For me it’s more close to home , her character ( not in the exact circumstances ) so it just triggers me sometimes I think 🙈


Hey you are mistaken if you think I am sympathising with Pakhi entirely. I am not able to explain why or what part of her, did I feel sorry for her.

She is whom you said and what Vaani says too. She is pampered, ziddi, wants what she desires, can't accept rejection, exactly whom we see on the screen, manipulative, can go to any lengths to get what she wants.


I am looking at those emotions that she carries, had carried even before they decided to not get together. Not the love, the yearning for Virat's affection. She had feelings for him in the past. She thought that he had also loved her. We all know what she feels for Virat is not love.

But if you look at the emotions alone, which she thought Virat felt for her, she decided to do something as big and as stupid only because he had loved her. He is not responsible for her decision but she based her decision on his past feelings which is no more there.

Virat had said that they never had anything like that recently and that would have been unexpected for her. I only mean that.

From giving a waada that there won't be anyone in his life other than her, he has come to koi aur aurat as a reference for her. Let me tell that Virat cannot be blamed for what he spoke. I clearly had said in EDT too that he said and did what he had to and because she pushed him to do so.


But would have been hurtful for a delusional person like her. The next day too she took tea for him because she is not accepting the reality too.


It is not just because she thinks Sai won't come back or that she will change Virat's decision. It is because she didn't believe him at all. That was why she was again crying when he spoke about Sai. The more and more he speaks, the more and more she is made to see the reality. Anyway she is going to go back to her villainous acts.

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Posted: 4 years ago
#52

Originally posted by: laksh

I wouldn't say it exactly as two timing. He didn't even once think that him sympathizing with Palhi can be misunderstood by her or can become an encouragement for ger thoughts. She had already told him on the night of the marriage that she cannot love anyone else other than him. He also knows that she thinks Samrat had come to know about them. He also knows that Samrat went MIA. Shouldnt he have been careful stlrast then while feeling sorry for her or speaking all those?

He was loyal and didn't think of Pakhi at all after marriage is fine. But he should have been more careful.

Suddenly one day he started to tell her when he realised Pakhi questioning him talking to Sai, that she shouldnt be questioning him. The night he called Sai back from UM room.

Until then, Pakhi didn't even know that Virat would have issues with her interfering between him and Sai. And then he slowly started to see that she was expecting way too much on the day of results and after Naag nadi visit. He asked why cannot he take a day off. After returning from Naag nadi he made it more prominent by saying no one should have issues if husband and wife spend time together.

She had asked him if he forgot about his promise. Why not clearly tell that he is moving on? Why didn't he ever apologise to her saying that he won't be able to stick to the promise?

He could have told her about his changed feelings for Sai may be. I don't know. He is not obliged to. None of these means that Pakhi should cross her line or expect anything from Virat. Virat could have done what he could have from his end.

I think in the alta episode he did tell her he is happy with his life and she would be as well when she gets to Samrat when he comes back..Also during PD house visit episode he told her clearly what she is to him and what should be expected out of him..She has been in delusion for a very long time even if we take these two instances into consideration. Before this I agree..he unintentionally led her on..and he was (boderline) two-timing unintentionally.. Even though he was not romantically interested in Pakhi, he gave her no reason to believe other wise.

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Posted: 4 years ago
#53

Originally posted by: laksh


Hey you are mistaken if you think I am sympathising with Pakhi entirely. I am not able to explain why or what part of her, did I feel sorry for her.

She is whom you said and what Vaani says too. She is pampered, ziddi, wants what she desires, can't accept rejection, exactly whom we see on the screen, manipulative, can go to any lengths to get what she wants.


I am looking at those emotions that she carries, had carried even before they decided to not get together. Not the love, the yearning for Virat's affection. She had feelings for him in the past. She thought that he had also loved her. We all know what she feels for Virat is not love.

But if you look at the emotions alone, which she thought Virat felt for her, she decided to do something as big and as stupid only because he had loved her. He is not responsible for her decision but she based her decision on his past feelings which is no more there.

Virat had said that they never had anything like that recently and that would have been unexpected for her. I only mean that.

From giving a waada that there won't be anyone in his life other than her, he has come to koi aur aurat as a reference for her. Let me tell that Virat cannot be blamed for what he spoke. I clearly had said in EDT too that he said and did what he had to and because she pushed him to do so.


But would have been hurtful for a delusional person like her. The next day too she took tea for him because she is not accepting the reality too.


It is not just because she thinks Sai won't come back or that she will change Virat's decision. It is because she didn't believe him at all. That was why she was again crying when he spoke about Sai. The more and more he speaks, the more and more she is made to see the reality. Anyway she is going to go back to her villainous acts.

Lakshmi I just mentioned about where I know which part of her is not willing to accept, and then it that decision you have to take ones in life to stop somewhere, coz the path u chose getter darker there is no light,

I don’t blame Virat other than giving her promise, the truth he said now could have been told when he knew that Pakhi was about to marry his brother, instead of telling and clearing doubts he could have kept her in illusions and took the blame, the problem is he said the same thing to sai, that girl who lost her father and now has bear in mind of not expecting anything from the marriage, is burden on small shoulders,

U know something I totally give in that Virat has never crossed line, he said he will be her best friend and will alwz stay, but then letting interfere in his matters ws his fault, the 1st night when Pakhi saw lipstick mark on Virat’s kurta she said you r a cheater, should be enough indication, yet if that wasn’t clear then canceling the trip coz of sai was clear enough yet hand holding seq, Virat told her that I have no feelings for you, and her behavior was enough for an practical person to understand that she is still in that payaar wala zone, he should have cleared her to then and there which he did now, and on top of that he let Pakhi insult his wife letting her call gold digger, I know he is repenting but then think about sai she cannot see that Virat loves her, even when so many ppl are telling about it,

Babe I am not saying Virat was wrong but he made mistake and lot of mistakes which he has to sought out, if you really wanna stop a person u need to stop at the instance not when things are too far

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Posted: 4 years ago
#54

Originally posted by: laksh


Hey you are mistaken if you think I am sympathising with Pakhi entirely. I am not able to explain why or what part of her, did I feel sorry for her.

She is whom you said and what Vaani says too. She is pampered, ziddi, wants what she desires, can't accept rejection, exactly whom we see on the screen, manipulative, can go to any lengths to get what she wants.


I am looking at those emotions that she carries, had carried even before they decided to not get together. Not the love, the yearning for Virat's affection. She had feelings for him in the past. She thought that he had also loved her. We all know what she feels for Virat is not love.

But if you look at the emotions alone, which she thought Virat felt for her, she decided to do something as big and as stupid only because he had loved her. He is not responsible for her decision but she based her decision on his past feelings which is no more there.

Virat had said that they never had anything like that recently and that would have been unexpected for her. I only mean that.

From giving a waada that there won't be anyone in his life other than her, he has come to koi aur aurat as a reference for her. Let me tell that Virat cannot be blamed for what he spoke. I clearly had said in EDT too that he said and did what he had to and because she pushed him to do so.


But would have been hurtful for a delusional person like her. The next day too she took tea for him because she is not accepting the reality too.


It is not just because she thinks Sai won't come back or that she will change Virat's decision. It is because she didn't believe him at all. That was why she was again crying when he spoke about Sai. The more and more he speaks, the more and more she is made to see the reality. Anyway she is going to go back to her villainous acts.

My qualm is about the word being delusional being used with her. Hear me out. I understand your perspective and I am not saying you are sympathising with her in that post. I am just saying that “me” personally something is blocking me from thinking from her POV and understanding her emotions.


Coming back to the word delusional used with her,

I am just saying she is that person , she is not delusional the way she sees and understands people is that screwed up. She weaves her emotions and others reactions based on her needs and the way she wants to perceive. So far it worked out for her because somehow what she perceived and wanted , she got it.


people can be that self cantered and narcissistic and few luckily grow out of that phase, but few still live under the guise happily with partners catering to their every whim and fancy because they think they are somehow inferior to them and they are so lucky to get married / associated to such a person.

Example: Ninad blind devotion to bhavani

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Posted: 4 years ago
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I think for me it’s the personal reasons like you said. It’s not bringing me to go the extra mile to see the reasons behind her actions 🙈

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: asmi_joya

I think in the alta episode he did tell her he is happy with his life and she would be as well when she gets to Samrat when he comes back..Also during PD house visit episode he told her clearly what she is to him and what should be expected out of him..She has been in delusion for a very long time even if we take these two instances into consideration. Before this I agree..he unintentionally led her on..and he was (boderline) two-timing unintentionally.. Even though he was not romantically interested in Pakhi, he gave her no reason to believe other wise.

Exactly!!

Until then he didn't. Even though he told her on the first night in the terrace that she is just his friend and brother's wife, he kept sympathising with her.

True, she was in delusion for a long time.

@bold exactly, rightly worded

He gave her no reason to believe otherwise 😣.


Her actions are not justified but he has made these mistakes. It was a natural and an unintentional one but he should have been more mindful/thoughtful especially when he knew what she felt for him and when Samrat was also not around.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: maahi11

Lakshmi I just mentioned about where I know which part of her is not willing to accept, and then it that decision you have to take ones in life to stop somewhere, coz the path u chose getter darker there is no light,

I don’t blame Virat other than giving her promise, the truth he said now could have been told when he knew that Pakhi was about to marry his brother, instead of telling and clearing doubts he could have kept her in illusions and took the blame, the problem is he said the same thing to sai, that girl who lost her father and now has bear in mind of not expecting anything from the marriage, is burden on small shoulders,

U know something I totally give in that Virat has never crossed line, he said he will be her best friend and will alwz stay, but then letting interfere in his matters ws his fault, the 1st night when Pakhi saw lipstick mark on Virat’s kurta she said you r a cheater, should be enough indication, yet if that wasn’t clear then canceling the trip coz of sai was clear enough yet hand holding seq, Virat told her that I have no feelings for you, and her behavior was enough for an practical person to understand that she is still in that payaar wala zone, he should have cleared her to then and there which he did now, and on top of that he let Pakhi insult his wife letting her call gold digger, I know he is repenting but then think about sai she cannot see that Virat loves her, even when so many ppl are telling about it,

Babe I am not saying Virat was wrong but he made mistake and lot of mistakes which he has to sought out, if you really wanna stop a person u need to stop at the instance not when things are too far


Aah thank god one more person who feels this way 🙈. What a relief.


Exactly what the problem is. I have listed out where Virat went wrong in the previous pages to Asmi.


@bold Virat was wrong 😂😂


@italics 👏 👏


He had enough indication and how can he fail to see it is beyond my comprehension. I think I know but I don't want to justify his actions 😂😂.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: notaquitter

My qualm is about the word being delusional being used with her. Hear me out. I understand your perspective and I am not saying you are sympathising with her in that post. I am just saying that “me” personally something is blocking me from thinking from her POV and understanding her emotions.


Coming back to the word delusional used with her,

I am just saying she is that person , she is not delusional the way she sees and understands people is that screwed up. She weaves her emotions and others reactions based on her needs and the way she wants to perceive. So far it worked out for her because somehow what she perceived and wanted , she got it.


people can be that self cantered and narcissistic and few luckily grow out of that phase, but few still live under the guise happily with partners catering to their every whim and fancy because they think they are somehow inferior to them and they are so lucky to get married / associated to such a person.

Example: Ninad blind devotion to bhavani


True, I agree.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: notaquitter

I think for me it’s the personal reasons like you said. It’s not bringing me to go the extra mile to see the reasons behind her actions 🙈


I completely understand dear 🤗❤.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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The first time I felt bad for him wrt Sai's problems was when he was sitting sadly in his bed in the latest episode.

True me too, before that for me he was bhukto u deserve it, I only felt bad when Pakhi cursed him because, when I love some one or claim to love some u don’t curse that person, this is also personal, A girl fell for a guy, things were good, but suddenly differences started, he somehow got to know this girl is expecting a lot, to protect the girl or having no courage to say that girl that the feelings are not mutual, eventually they disconnected, she msged, he read but no reply, she fought, but one day she made herself understand that she needs to stop, and she stopped msgng, calling and trying, that was the decision had to made, sometimes it’s difficult very difficult, but then it’s your own battle, she thanks that guy coz he understood and stopped himself, and that worked


She doesn't want to accept. There is a saying in my language, you can only wake up people who are sleeping, not people who are pretending to be asleep. Not that she is pretending, she just doesn't want to accept it or come out of it. See, if she is not able to forget Virat too it is okay, move out, end it with Samrat, but stop meddling with Sai and Virat's life. Stop torturing a girl who has no one in the world. Stop emotionally blackmailing a guy who wants to be a friend even after he knows your feelings or intentions. Thw guy who is already going through a lot of pain 🤦‍♀️.

Exactly only she can help herself, that what her best friend Neha told but instead she is going deep into it, and now unless she gets a support she will be helpless

@bold in the beginning, she didn't fight because it all became more desirable or her zid increased after she said Virat showering affection on Sai. She started to desire it.

She dint fight coz the guy dint fight for her, when Virat asked her to tell the family he denied, and she knew it’s lost case, the fact if she felt that strong she could have fought herself, when she said tell your family nothing will change I will be ur Ghar ka bahu, just ur wife, that made me remind jab we meet last scene of Anshuman and Geet, where Anshuman told the same thing that why I called her dilusional, coz she thought it’s easy, but Virat knew what was at stake, he chose his brother,

Regarding fight even if Virat denied she could have still went to Samrat told him, or back off from the marriage completely, leaving both the guys, her father gave her option but she went ahead, based on a promise that’s her mistake, she dint fought and now when she see sai and Virat she feels sorry for herself, coz what sai is doing she couldn’t do, there is saying until u ask for its always no, she could have taken the matter in her own hands when she saw Virat is not helping her,

Imply based on a promise how can u marry someone, and if u did shouldn’t u stick by it, let’s go reverse psychology, what is Samrat was there and she had moved on in life, and Virat was still struck with the promise, would she felt sorry for Virat, trust me the answer is no, coz kahi na kahi who rhetha and as soon as Virat had a partner she would be doing even Samrat being there what she is doing now,



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