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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: jankiraghav

Suprabhat Bhagininno!! 🌻🌺🌻💕🌻🌺🌻


Someone on that team is a fan of Guru's songtrack. Today, Tere Bina was the second song from the film after jaage Hain Der tak... but my mind was stuck at the beginning of Dum da ra dum da ra mast mast da ra dum... Kitna apt song hai is show ke liye 🤣🤣🤣🤣 I will never be able to hear it without thinking of 'Dum' and 'Mast Mast' -- two things that ruined their blossoming love story 😅😅😅. Sorry for the PJ. Mat padho aage 🙊🙈


The last two episodes have been about discovering truths for both Sai and Virat. While Virat is discovering the obvious truth, Sai is coming to terms with the biggest truth of her life : she's back to where she was left when Aaba departed. Alone, in grief and with a long life ahead of her with a sudden loss that she had not imagined would befall upon her.. She has finally found some moments of solitude to reflect upon the events of her life that sucked her in like a whirlwind. Did this girl even have the time go process what she has been through since the night Kamal Joshi was shot? Her life changed in a matter of hours.

That night too, she was readying to leave for Nagpur but she had not anticipated that the person who would take her to her city of dreams would be the man she had actually been waiting for, to free her father to be able to go to Nagpur. Today, she's readying to return to Nagpur without the same man, even when he comes by to seek her once more -- ridden with guilt and asking for a chance to repent. Fate really has a twisted sense of humour.

The only difference between the two moments is that she is more confident of finding her feet now than she would have been in back in that day when she lost her father. But is she in lesser pain than that moment -- unlikely.

Needless to say, Sai in this forlorn state is a heart breaking sight. Her empty eyes convey the anguish her heart has been feeling. Losing someone dear is never easy, especially if the loss is not to death but to desertion. Some losses are even more painful than death. When you lose someone to death, the pain that accompanies that loss becomes manageable over a period of time because one begins to realise that death is inevitable and beyond anyone's control. Because the person has left in every form -- there are no chances of reconnecting, rebuilding and of changing what could have gone wrong. But losing someone to a 'sudden detachment' is almost always a hurt that never heals. One might learn to manage that hurt too, but it never heals. And especially if it is inflicted by a spouse. The unanswered questions never end for the one who has been deserted.

Why did he do this to me without a warning, without even a conversation -- did I not deserve even one hearing before being condemned? Or was he waiting for the opportune moment to snap ties with me? Did he really never value me because I was thrust upon him against his wish? I know that he did not marry me for love but am I so unworthy of being loved despite all that we shared? If it was just a sham, how did I feel times that he loved me, was seeking me and wanted to hear me say that to him too? Why did he always want all my attention? Did his heart not quiver when he left me in the cold, in the dead of the night after allowing every standing person around him to pierce sharp knives into me -- the sharpest of all, he held himself and struck straight into my heart...and every word he said turned it deeper. Being condemned without even being heard is worse than being misunderstood.

this is actually what she is feeling, yes she was attached she likes it or not she was, I rem when she slept in UM’s room the next day Virat went to take har, and he said I want u to her not because of fam but I like it, when Virat told her I want you to come along to ladak she stopped questioning, when Virat told her why he wanted to take her to ladak to spend some time, to think of him like a family yes steps were taken forward, this happens when suddenly the person u are with stop connecting anymore, u tend to question urself more then him, she knew he will be angry but she knew ones knows the truth he will accept the marriage, yes in wildest dream she never thought she will be asked to leave,

And all are saying she wasn’t given an opportunity to heard that’s not right she was the problem was she promised Pulkit so couldn’t tell what led her to take such darstic step that angered Virat more. Coz that time Virat thought that she has defied him, went behind his back with no weighted reasons, and that is where my problem is when it comes truth unfolding, I am not saying that he punished sai was right there could be others ways also. This insecurity has also stem from the fact that we know Virat loves sai, his aai, devi, Shivani Bua and Mohit also knows but sai doesn’t know, Virat has never cleared to sai that he has no feelings for Pakhi, when ever they fight and whenever sai questions his feelings foe Pakhi he never clears her, like he cleared to Pakhi that I have no feelings left for u, I am not saying he should simply jump and say I love u sai, but atleast give that girl knowledge tht he is not in Pakhi anymore, who payaar tha hi nhi Aur tha bhi tho khatam ho chuka hai,

No matter how detached Sai may claim to be from Virat and their marriage, the fact is that she is the 'wife'. She has always wanted to be the 'wife'. Their's may have been a marriage with a lot of disagreements but it was never filled with hatred or contempt. Instead, it had only begun to reach a point of acknowledgment -- almost love -- when the plug was pulled. It can't be easy.

Sai is visibly feeling the intense physical pain that accompanies a heart break -- the actual feeling of being torn apart: the feeling of the heart dropping into the stomach, feeling crushed, and being pushed off a cliff. The feeling of loneliness has not hit her yet because she's still grieving the actual incident of breaking up -- it wasn't something she had anticipated or wanted. Anger, yes, she knew she would have to face but she had been confident that he would hear her out. But he stunned her and left her with a raw hurt.

And just as she is beginning to grieve deeply to get hold on her emotions for the long term, there he is -- to seek forgiveness... to ask her to return to the place where she never even had the status of a 'wife', where anyone was allowed to walk over her when he was in a fit of rage, even if she resisted the insults -- naturally, she will experience anger, loss of trust, fear, anxiety. But to even process the thought of going back to the man she right now thinks she can never have will need her to accept something she has been denying : that she has fallen in love with him. No other reason will be justified.

Virat, on the other hand, has learnt the part of the truth -- he is far away from actually learning the truth. One cannot tell if he will ever learn the truth because yes, as he has realised his bewakoofi and nasamajhi, he continues to be on the same path. He believed Omkar's admission of being the only one involved when clearly, all thee Dil Ke acche Ghar ke bade are together in all their acts. He did not want to probe any further. Again (hate to call him IPS) he couldn't sense body language, lying eyes shifting while speaking, the anxiety and paleness on their faces and their hurry to burry his discovery by going back to raising doubts about Pulkit and dissing Sai. Kutte ki dum Kabhi seedhi Nahi Hoti.

How easy was it for him to 'forgive' Omkar by just asking them to 'let Devi and Pulkit be happy'. There wasn't even a convincing yes from anyone of them. And he almost doesn't feel the need to also remind them to stay away from Sai before deciding to bring her back? He can see clearly that the family does not want Sai to come back -- not even Sonali, who seems to definitely, pakka, shambhar takke have a split personality too 🤐

It is clear that the unreasonable grudge they have against Sai will never go away. How does he plan to safeguard Sai in the future? He doesn't know she was fooled into a trap in his absence but he definitely knows that they won't let her live in peace, especially the Teeli maarne wali Begum-e-beizzati. Virat missed a golden opportunity to negotiate peace for his love life.h

Shouldn't that be his first condition of letting off Omkar -- that none of those five venomous people will hiss at his wife, whether she's present or absent? especially Mallika-e-Maturity. Coming here why dint he negotiated with these ppl for sai, and why Pulkit, simple the man who himself couldn’t do anything even Virat gets that, so Virat negotiated, now why not sai coz he knows sai can manage these fools, the only thing I can expect in future to be more considerate with sai and less for Ghar kay bade dil ache log, with Pakhi he is one to be blamed if day one he would have asked Pakhi to be in limits this could be avoided there very less times where he actually told Pakhi to keep ur mouth shut, openly in future he needs to set the boundaries and foe that he doesn’t needs negotiation that can be done the. And there,

Why would it take him this long -- until she actually comes on to him evidently-- to set boundaries for her. Of course she's someone who doesn't recognize boundaries even if her face collides with it but Virat has given her an unending rope.

He's restless without Sai on the other side of the bed -- the previous night, he couldn't care less about what she wanted to say and why she was waiting hungry at the door step. But sudden discovery of Sai being right (I wouldn't still call it the truth because he hasn't learnt that truth) has left him guilty and yearning. He has a cupboard full of things that belong to Sai and give him a sense of her being (don't ask how Sai has some of her belongings when he didn't even allow her to enter the room to take her stuff 😅 aise sawaal poochna mana hai; waise Sai's departure shrunk their cupboard too 😅) but it would be so much better if he, as the most mature one, also recalls some of the grievances Sai has had, especially in the context of her self respect in the house.

Virat knows he's yearning for Sai. He's reached the point where he acknowledges his 'need' to have her around. But Sai, on the other hand, still seems to question why her thoughts turn towards Virat.

Undoing the damage that has been caused to their relationship by both of them is impossible. But it would take a fresh start, letting go of the pain caused to each other and forgiving, determining the new equation of the relationship, being committed to it and working equally towards making better memories together. For all practical purposes, his promise to Kamal Joshi is broken. If he has to seek Sai now, he has to tell her that he is seeking the wife in her and not the zimmedari that gives his ego of righteousness a boost.

Virat is aware he's egoistic and blinded in rage when it comes to Sai but unfortunately he helplessly repeats the cycle of his reactions in the moments of loss of control.

Sai is yet to acknowledge that she is impulsive and lacks poise and prudence at times. However, her trait to put everything and everyone at stake for something she believes is right actually comes from her Aaba himself. Did her father think of what was at stake before giving himself in the ultimate sacrifice?

But in a marriage, the spouse has to come first, no matter what. Once they recognise each other as their 'spouse', the need to guard their space and relationship will follow...

now tht he is coming he needs to clear that he wants her to be coz he is his wife and not some responsibility and that he sees his life with her and not with someone else


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I have been having this nagging question on my mind and I would love to hear the views:

It was easy for Virat to be instigated by the family enough to throw her out without giving her a hearing even. I believe he did not plan to throw her out when he came home. He decided to do it when he was reminded that she had defied him, disrespected his love for her and planned the betrayal. The distrust that both Sai and Virat have in each other definitely stems from the distance between them -- the lacking physical intimacy plays a huge role in further distancing spouses when they are in disagreement principally and emotionally. Physical intimacy gives the relationship a sense of security and also makes the trust deeper. Now, I don't believe that love can only be manifested with physical closeness but it plays a role in making the relationship stronger becayse it brings in more attachment and responsibility towards one another -- had the two of them been in a normal, conjugal marriage, would it have been so easy for Virat to shut the door on the face of his wife in the dead of the night without even hearing her out? No matter what the provocation and no matter the reason behind the rage -- would he have a reason to believe that she betrayed him and did not want to be in the marriage?

PS: Chakrams need their dum wali chai. Their beizzati looks incomplete without it. Zillat arena toh shrink ho Gaya but chai ke cups bhi gayab ho Gaye... itni hawa tight hone ke baad bina zehereeli chai ke kaise manage Kar rahe honge ye log. 🙄😑🙄😑 Waise, saste nikal gaye saare, bill toh chaheeta beta Apne Aap par phaadne wala hai with Sai Joshi waiting to explode on Virat Chavan's face😅

Have a great day lovelies!!

Do share your thoughts, haste muskurate.

Sending lots of love, hugs and coffees your way ❤️🤗☕❤️🤗☕❤️🤗☕

Love

❤️J


Hey lovely post apt description of their emotions


both have to learn a lot like I said phele bhi I am not saying Virat was right but sai also needs to recheck her actions, someone needs to tell sai what hurts Virat also, someone needs to tell that u can’t take such impulsive decisions everytime and get Scott free and make sure without apologizing to ur spouse make him feel at worst,

A relationship only works when both work towards it and honestly I havnt see sai working towards it. I am not against sai but yes I never liked the approach she has towards Virat, taking Pakhis name in every conversation is not required, and I guess there was one such scene where she herself called her stupid for saying why Pakhi dint offered food.




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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: jankiraghav

Suprabhat Bhagininno!! 🌻🌺🌻💕🌻🌺🌻


Someone on that team is a fan of Guru's songtrack. Today, Tere Bina was the second song from the film after jaage Hain Der tak... but my mind was stuck at the beginning of Dum da ra dum da ra mast mast da ra dum... Kitna apt song hai is show ke liye 🤣🤣🤣🤣 I will never be able to hear it without thinking of 'Dum' and 'Mast Mast' -- two things that ruined their blossoming love story 😅😅😅. Sorry for the PJ. Mat padho aage 🙊🙈


The last two episodes have been about discovering truths for both Sai and Virat. While Virat is discovering the obvious truth, Sai is coming to terms with the biggest truth of her life : she's back to where she was left when Aaba departed. Alone, in grief and with a long life ahead of her with a sudden loss that she had not imagined would befall upon her.. She has finally found some moments of solitude to reflect upon the events of her life that sucked her in like a whirlwind. Did this girl even have the time go process what she has been through since the night Kamal Joshi was shot? Her life changed in a matter of hours.

That night too, she was readying to leave for Nagpur but she had not anticipated that the person who would take her to her city of dreams would be the man she had actually been waiting for, to free her father to be able to go to Nagpur. Today, she's readying to return to Nagpur without the same man, even when he comes by to seek her once more -- ridden with guilt and asking for a chance to repent. Fate really has a twisted sense of humour.

The only difference between the two moments is that she is more confident of finding her feet now than she would have been in back in that day when she lost her father. But is she in lesser pain than that moment -- unlikely.

Needless to say, Sai in this forlorn state is a heart breaking sight. Her empty eyes convey the anguish her heart has been feeling. Losing someone dear is never easy, especially if the loss is not to death but to desertion. Some losses are even more painful than death. When you lose someone to death, the pain that accompanies that loss becomes manageable over a period of time because one begins to realise that death is inevitable and beyond anyone's control. Because the person has left in every form -- there are no chances of reconnecting, rebuilding and of changing what could have gone wrong. But losing someone to a 'sudden detachment' is almost always a hurt that never heals. One might learn to manage that hurt too, but it never heals. And especially if it is inflicted by a spouse. The unanswered questions never end for the one who has been deserted.

Why did he do this to me without a warning, without even a conversation -- did I not deserve even one hearing before being condemned? Or was he waiting for the opportune moment to snap ties with me? Did he really never value me because I was thrust upon him against his wish? I know that he did not marry me for love but am I so unworthy of being loved despite all that we shared? If it was just a sham, how did I feel times that he loved me, was seeking me and wanted to hear me say that to him too? Why did he always want all my attention? Did his heart not quiver when he left me in the cold, in the dead of the night after allowing every standing person around him to pierce sharp knives into me -- the sharpest of all, he held himself and struck straight into my heart...and every word he said turned it deeper. Being condemned without even being heard is worse than being misunderstood.

No matter how detached Sai may claim to be from Virat and their marriage, the fact is that she is the 'wife'. She has always wanted to be the 'wife'. Their's may have been a marriage with a lot of disagreements but it was never filled with hatred or contempt. Instead, it had only begun to reach a point of acknowledgment -- almost love -- when the plug was pulled. It can't be easy.

Sai is visibly feeling the intense physical pain that accompanies a heart break -- the actual feeling of being torn apart: the feeling of the heart dropping into the stomach, feeling crushed, and being pushed off a cliff. The feeling of loneliness has not hit her yet because she's still grieving the actual incident of breaking up -- it wasn't something she had anticipated or wanted. Anger, yes, she knew she would have to face but she had been confident that he would hear her out. But he stunned her and left her with a raw hurt.

And just as she is beginning to grieve deeply to get hold on her emotions for the long term, there he is -- to seek forgiveness... to ask her to return to the place where she never even had the status of a 'wife', where anyone was allowed to walk over her when he was in a fit of rage, even if she resisted the insults -- naturally, she will experience anger, loss of trust, fear, anxiety. But to even process the thought of going back to the man she right now thinks she can never have will need her to accept something she has been denying : that she has fallen in love with him. No other reason will be justified.

Virat, on the other hand, has learnt the part of the truth -- he is far away from actually learning the truth. One cannot tell if he will ever learn the truth because yes, as he has realised his bewakoofi and nasamajhi, he continues to be on the same path. He believed Omkar's admission of being the only one involved when clearly, all thee Dil Ke acche Ghar ke bade are together in all their acts. He did not want to probe any further. Again (hate to call him IPS) he couldn't sense body language, lying eyes shifting while speaking, the anxiety and paleness on their faces and their hurry to burry his discovery by going back to raising doubts about Pulkit and dissing Sai. Kutte ki dum Kabhi seedhi Nahi Hoti.

How easy was it for him to 'forgive' Omkar by just asking them to 'let Devi and Pulkit be happy'. There wasn't even a convincing yes from anyone of them. And he almost doesn't feel the need to also remind them to stay away from Sai before deciding to bring her back? He can see clearly that the family does not want Sai to come back -- not even Sonali, who seems to definitely, pakka, shambhar takke have a split personality too 🤐

It is clear that the unreasonable grudge they have against Sai will never go away. How does he plan to safeguard Sai in the future? He doesn't know she was fooled into a trap in his absence but he definitely knows that they won't let her live in peace, especially the Teeli maarne wali Begum-e-beizzati. Virat missed a golden opportunity to negotiate peace for his love life.h

Shouldn't that be his first condition of letting off Omkar -- that none of those five venomous people will hiss at his wife, whether she's present or absent? especially Mallika-e-Maturity.

Why would it take him this long -- until she actually comes on to him evidently-- to set boundaries for her. Of course she's someone who doesn't recognize boundaries even if her face collides with it but Virat has given her an unending rope.

He's restless without Sai on the other side of the bed -- the previous night, he couldn't care less about what she wanted to say and why she was waiting hungry at the door step. But sudden discovery of Sai being right (I wouldn't still call it the truth because he hasn't learnt that truth) has left him guilty and yearning. He has a cupboard full of things that belong to Sai and give him a sense of her being (don't ask how Sai has some of her belongings when he didn't even allow her to enter the room to take her stuff 😅 aise sawaal poochna mana hai; waise Sai's departure shrunk their cupboard too 😅) but it would be so much better if he, as the most mature one, also recalls some of the grievances Sai has had, especially in the context of her self respect in the house.

Virat knows he's yearning for Sai. He's reached the point where he acknowledges his 'need' to have her around. But Sai, on the other hand, still seems to question why her thoughts turn towards Virat.

Undoing the damage that has been caused to their relationship by both of them is impossible. But it would take a fresh start, letting go of the pain caused to each other and forgiving, determining the new equation of the relationship, being committed to it and working equally towards making better memories together. For all practical purposes, his promise to Kamal Joshi is broken. If he has to seek Sai now, he has to tell her that he is seeking the wife in her and not the zimmedari that gives his ego of righteousness a boost.

Virat is aware he's egoistic and blinded in rage when it comes to Sai but unfortunately he helplessly repeats the cycle of his reactions in the moments of loss of control.

Sai is yet to acknowledge that she is impulsive and lacks poise and prudence at times. However, her trait to put everything and everyone at stake for something she believes is right actually comes from her Aaba himself. Did her father think of what was at stake before giving himself in the ultimate sacrifice?

But in a marriage, the spouse has to come first, no matter what. Once they recognise each other as their 'spouse', the need to guard their space and relationship will follow...

****

I have been having this nagging question on my mind and I would love to hear the views:

It was easy for Virat to be instigated by the family enough to throw her out without giving her a hearing even. I believe he did not plan to throw her out when he came home. He decided to do it when he was reminded that she had defied him, disrespected his love for her and planned the betrayal. The distrust that both Sai and Virat have in each other definitely stems from the distance between them -- the lacking physical intimacy plays a huge role in further distancing spouses when they are in disagreement principally and emotionally. Physical intimacy gives the relationship a sense of security and also makes the trust deeper. Now, I don't believe that love can only be manifested with physical closeness but it plays a role in making the relationship stronger becayse it brings in more attachment and responsibility towards one another -- had the two of them been in a normal, conjugal marriage, would it have been so easy for Virat to shut the door on the face of his wife in the dead of the night without even hearing her out? No matter what the provocation and no matter the reason behind the rage -- would he have a reason to believe that she betrayed him and did not want to be in the marriage?

PS: Chakrams need their dum wali chai. Their beizzati looks incomplete without it. Zillat arena toh shrink ho Gaya but chai ke cups bhi gayab ho Gaye... itni hawa tight hone ke baad bina zehereeli chai ke kaise manage Kar rahe honge ye log. 🙄😑🙄😑 Waise, saste nikal gaye saare, bill toh chaheeta beta Apne Aap par phaadne wala hai with Sai Joshi waiting to explode on Virat Chavan's face😅

Have a great day lovelies!!

Do share your thoughts, haste muskurate.

Sending lots of love, hugs and coffees your way ❤️🤗☕❤️🤗☕❤️🤗☕

Love

❤️J

Great analysis. Agree with everything that you have mentioned. Though Sayi looks indifferent she too is missing Virat. But, she doesn't want anyone to see it. And, Virat too has realised his feelings for her. And, yes if they had shared a physical intimacy maybe things would have been different. Even though they are apart their relationship will become stronger after they reunite. 'Absence makes the heart grow fonder'. This phrase holds true for SaiRat.

I would like to add one more thing. There was no issue between Omkar and Sonali so far. But, now it looks as if Sonali might keep a distance from him. Today he was about to blurt out everything but stopped himself and she retorted something about respecting Kaku. Now, it's confirmed that Sonali didn't know anything about Omkar changing the documents and the kidnapping. Wish this truth comes out as well as not only Omkar but Kaku, Ninad and Patralekha were also a part of this mess.

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Jaaaannnnnnuuuuuu! Meri Jaaneman! Kya haal chaal? Kaisi hai tu?


Someone is definitely a fan of the Guru album - I mean, who isn't? Honestly, I personally love the Guru album, Rahman sir hits the right chord with this one! And Tere Bina is my top, along with Ay Hairathe Aashiqui.


The last two episodes have been about discovering truths for both Sai and Virat. While Virat is discovering the obvious truth, Sai is coming to terms with the biggest truth of her life : she's back to where she was left when Aaba departed. Alone, in grief and with a long life ahead of her with a sudden loss that she had not imagined would befall upon her.. She has finally found some moments of solitude to reflect upon the events of her life that sucked her in like a whirlwind. Did this girl even have the time go process what she has been through since the night Kamal Joshi was shot? Her life changed in a matter of hours.

^This! This is just so true! I've always mentioned in most of my posts concerning Sai, that this girl hasn't even had to chance to process the loss that she endured in one war, before she was already thrown into the next. I don't even think Sai has had the time to mourn, grieve her father and making her peace with his untimely departure, before she was thrown in front of the Makad gang, completely unarmed. Though Sai is hurt and miserable, I'm glad that she has time to feel all these things in peace, without someone coming and taunting her at every second.


The only difference between the two moments is that she is more confident of finding her feet now than she would have been in back in that day when she lost her father. But is she in lesser pain than that moment -- unlikely.

^Love, you have penned this beautifully, and I'm not surprised though, it's so typically Janki😉. If there is one thing that staying among the Makad Gang and dealing with a split personality like Virat has taught her, it is deal with the worst of situations and find solutions with a calm mind. Of course, the pain that she carries with her this time is immense.


Sai is visibly feeling the intense physical pain that accompanies a heart break -- the actual feeling of being torn apart: the feeling of the heart dropping into the stomach, feeling crushed, and being pushed off a cliff. The feeling of loneliness has not hit her yet because she's still grieving the actual incident of breaking up -- it wasn't something she had anticipated or wanted. Anger, yes, she knew she would have to face but she had been confident that he would hear her out. But he stunned her and left her with a raw hurt.

^I do agree with the fact that Sai was wrong in hiding this entire fiasco from Virat. And we could see it in her eyes every time she cut Virat's call during DevKit wedding preparations. But she was a 100% percent sure that even if he were angry with her, he would definitely hear her out. That was the kind of trust that she had in Virat. And even the case of not telling Virat about the DevKit marriage was the sense of urgency and lack of time that she had, not because she didn't trust him. I think, between the two, Sai is the one feels the raw hurt that comes from being separated from someone you love the most. Though Virat is feeling it too, I feel that the hurt of being separated from her is overpowered by the guilt and regret he feels for treating her that way.


And just as she is beginning to grieve deeply to get hold on her emotions for the long term, there he is -- to seek forgiveness... to ask her to return to the place where she never even had the status of a 'wife', where anyone was allowed to walk over her when he was in a fit of rage, even if she resisted the insults -- naturally, she will experience anger, loss of trust, fear, anxiety. But to even process the thought of going back to the man she right now thinks she can never have will need her to accept something she has been denying : that she has fallen in love with him. No other reason will be justified.

^Exactly! I think between Virat and Sai, though Sai is the most impulsive one, she is also the one who is most introspective. She might even realize her feelings for Virat, but she will never bring herself to admit it. Not after this heartbreak.


It is clear that the unreasonable grudge they have against Sai will never go away. How does he plan to safeguard Sai in the future? He doesn't know she was fooled into a trap in his absence but he definitely knows that they won't let her live in peace, especially the Teeli maarne wali Begum-e-beizzati. Virat missed a golden opportunity to negotiate peace for his love life.h

^Well, he still thinks that his gharwale are dil-ke-acche. And even in today's episode, they BK and PP still didn't want her back. And they don't leave one moment to taunt her, whether she's there or she isn't.


Why would it take him this long -- until she actually comes on to him evidently-- to set boundaries for her. Of course she's someone who doesn't recognize boundaries even if her face collides with it but Virat has given her an unending rope.

^I've actually given up on him putting a boundary between him and PP. Because clearly PP doesn't know what boundaries are and Virat still thinks that she is "mature". I would be very happy if they do show Virat taking a firm stand on pattarlekha's interference.


As for your question, even I feel the same as you do. If SaiRat had a normal, conjugal relationship, it would definitely not have been so easy for Virat to kick Sai out of the house. Also, though I don't believe that physical intimacy is the only important thing for a marriage to work. But, but physical intimacy also increases the trust between to people in every sense. So, no, I don't think it would have been easy for Virat to oust her.



Love,

Niya🤗

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Hey lovely post apt description of their emotions


both have to learn a lot like I said phele bhi I am not saying Virat was right but sai also needs to recheck her actions, someone needs to tell sai what hurts Virat also, someone needs to tell that u can’t take such impulsive decisions everytime and get Scott free and make sure without apologizing to ur spouse make him feel at worst,

A relationship only works when both work towards it and honestly I havnt see sai working towards it. I am not against sai but yes I never liked the approach she has towards Virat, taking Pakhis name in every conversation is not required, and I guess there was one such scene where she herself called her stupid for saying why Pakhi dint offered food.




Exactly. You have penned down my thoughts. I too have mentioned many times that a relationship has to work from both the partners. Whenever Virat takes one step towards her she does or says something that irks him and he tends to go backwards. In one of the episodes where Sayi was practicing her dance Virat enters and says sorry for not knocking the door and she says it's his room and not her's and when he says that the room belongs to both of them she refuses to accept it. Then again she says should she get food for him or will Pakhi get it and he gets irked by her name. Someone should tell her that even Virat has feelings and he too feels bad. Why should only Virat has to mend his ways and not Sayi? There is no need to act impulsively and then behave as if she hasn't done anything wrong. She always does that and expects Virat to understand. She has to return to the past and analyse whatever she has done specially Pulkit - Devyani marriage and try to rectify by apologising to him. A sorry can solve lots of problems.

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Originally posted by: fatssrilanka

Exactly. You have penned down my thoughts. I too have mentioned many times that a relationship has to work from both the partners. Whenever Virat takes one step towards her she does or says something that irks him and he tends to go backwards. In one of the episodes where Sayi was practicing her dance Virat enters and says sorry for not knocking the door and she says it's his room and not her's and when he says that the room belongs to both of them she refuses to accept it. Then again she says should she get food for him or will Pakhi get it and he gets irked by her name. Someone should tell her that even Virat has feelings and he too feels bad. Why should only Virat has to mend his ways and not Sayi? There is no need to act impulsively and then behave as if she hasn't done anything wrong. She always does that and expects Virat to understand. She has to return to the past and analyse whatever she has done specially Pulkit - Devyani marriage and try to rectify by apologising to him. A sorry can solve lots of problems.


Exactly, you this kind of behavior of sai will affect her in future coz they actually need to have heart to heart conversation. It’s from my personal experience me and my colleague used to fight a lot and then he did a personal attack and I complained to my boss

I regretted that was to early and so did he, and the next thing we did was to have a heart to heart conversation with each other. That’s what we did. And we sorted we difference and thereafter we had very cordial and friendly relationship which exist till today

In couples it’s required, like me and my ex boy friend we used this thing ones in a month thing of having a confession day, we had made sure we will confess whatever is there and then either work it out or not to talk about it,
We both learnt so much from each other it dint worked due to different priorities but we are good friends till date

Both Sairat needs to sit may be go on vacation where without interruption they need to talk to each other tell how they feel what they expect and what they don’t they need counseling for their actions

And trust me it’s high time sai too needs to be shown mirror, I am not saying she is wrong but her attitude yes that lacks

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Janki, you were not here in the forum when I discussed this aspect in one of the topics. I do believe physical intimacy plays an important role in a marriage, especially an arranged one. Virat and Sai, if they had this intimacy which only two of them share and hence special between them, will sit and think before jumping into breaking their relationship. It would be difficult for any couple to let go of comfort, be it physical or emotional. The former is more stronger in the early phase of marriage and the latter becomes more important when the relationship matures. So yes is my answer.


I would like to know your thoughts on something that is bothering me. What if Sai has done a mistake in marrying of Tai? What if Pulkit is indeed a crook. Sai married them off with all good intentions but it turned out to be a mistake, then also Virat should not kick his wife out. I think they should learn to see each other as something part of themselves, then only they can forgive each other's mistakes and move on. I would like the story to show this, and hopefully they show it.


Hope I make sense here :)

Hi dear, sorry i don't know your name. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

I agree with you about intimacy. To me, emotional intimacy is more important than physical intimacy but as you said, when it is a marriage where the two partners have come together not exactly out of their 'choice' but because of an arrangement of match or circumstances, the work that needs to go into it is immense from both ends. I have previously analysed their intimacy at various points-- especially when Virat had his anger outbursts because of his insecurity and his jealousy stemming from the fact that he was beginning to seek intimacy from her-- not physical at that point but emotional. During the Holi celebrations, he actually made the move towards physical intimacy and she was a willing partner too. And then this fiasco happened. The trust deficit that they have in each other --Virat thinking that he means nothing to her without acknowledging that he is yet to tell her that the barriers are non-existent in as many words as he used and repeated to place them, and Sai thinking she means nothing to him because of his silence mostly -- would not be there if they had forged the physical intimacy. Spouses do share more trust and oneness when they are physically closer -- the language of touch is something.

Actually, I did not ask that question right now but I did have it in my mind -- would Sai have also gone to the lengths that she did to unite Devyani and Pulkit, without waiting for Virat to join and convince him, if they had a conjugal marriage. I don't think she would have done it so impulsively -- she would have done it had Virat remained adamant despite knowing the facts.

I have said many times during the build-up to the whole elopement of Devyani that I do not agree with Sai doing it behind Virat's back. I said it three days ago on Nitu's post too. I asked the exact questions as you did in @bold -- what if Sai's trust in Pulkit is misplaced. But it is a thing of the past now and thankfully she wasn't wrong. I still don't think either of the two gave any importance to their spouse -- they lack basic trust in each other. Virat's rage in kicking her out was of a betrayed spouse overcome with unfathomable craze because he thought she was fooling him to execute her plan; Sai did not trust him enough to wait and give him another chance to understand what she was trying to explain so she put her relationship at stake and did not expect this reaction.

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I was waiting for him to ask them to stay away from Sai too after telling them to stay away devi and treat pulkit as SIL.

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Beautiful analysis 😊

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Lovely post! I am so happy to see you back in action.


Pace wise, direction wise somehow I found yesterday and today, lacking in intensity. I don't know if it was deliberate. The rage that Virat always shows against Sai is not there towards his family or towards Pakhi. For example: one question, Omi ki sazaa kya honi chahiye, if not jail. Since he keeps saying Sai's sazaa was wrongful. What if he never found proof of her truth? He was willing to lose her, without giving her one moment to speak about her actions or even apologise for her actions. Which she was all set to do.


So for me, his repentance was incomplete and conditional. But not to worry, I have no doubt Sai will ask him all the right questions. 😆. I realise that's why I keep coming back to watch. Sai will ask him the questions that hopefully will make him introspect.

i also have a huge problem with him not standing up for his mother. Which means his inner core has not changed. He has not understood what is going on in that house of his, with his mother. Even a PP can taunt Aai and she has to bear it. This in front of him.

They better draw his redemption arc carefully. 😡

My heart went out to Sai. She is facing a second loss of someone she could call her own. However, who will tell her she needs to curb her impulsiveness to get her way. She has broken down this time because somewhere because of her own trust issues, she has lost Virat. Hopefully, they will show her vulnerable side too. They made a start today. Her strength is still her father, based on her promise made to him, she will get up, dust herself and move on. But this time, not without a huge sense of loss.

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Exactly, you this kind of behavior of sai will affect her in future coz they actually need to have heart to heart conversation. It’s from my personal experience me and my colleague used to fight a lot and then he did a personal attack and I complained to my boss

I regretted that was to early and so did he, and the next thing we did was to have a heart to heart conversation with each other. That’s what we did. And we sorted we difference and thereafter we had very cordial and friendly relationship which exist till today

In couples it’s required, like me and my ex boy friend we used this thing ones in a month thing of having a confession day, we had made sure we will confess whatever is there and then either work it out or not to talk about it,
We both learnt so much from each other it dint worked due to different priorities but we are good friends till date

Both Sairat needs to sit may be go on vacation where without interruption they need to talk to each other tell how they feel what they expect and what they don’t they need counseling for their actions

And trust me it’s high time sai too needs to be shown mirror, I am not saying she is wrong but her attitude yes that lacks

Yes, so true. It is the need of the hour. Else it will get more difficult in the future. I don't know why nobody points out her mistakes. Ashwini Ayi has all the time to point out Virat's mistakes but not for Sayi. Hope when she returns to Chavan Niwas she tells her where she went wrong.

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