Ghum Hain kisikey Pyaar Mein WU and Daily discussion thread no 10 - Page 36

Originally posted by: Bana

If u were dealing with a mentally ill person and u have a proposition that u know will have a tremendous effect on that person, will u not thoroughly check & verify the proposition before u introduce it to that person? Will u rely only on circumstantial coincidences & gut feel? That may be enough in a normal case but surely not in this case as the slightest error can have major consequences - as a smart girl & medical student even the 19 year old Sai should have been aware of this.

In that sense, Sai is responsible for deterioration in Devi Tai’s condition, imho.

We know Pulkit is good but how can she be so sure? How can she take such a big risk?

True more verification should have been done but she did not invite Pulkit home. Pulkit just announced that he is coming over and no one could stop him.

I feel this gang must have done something to her for her health to get worse.

Originally posted by: notaquitter

True more verification should have been done but she did not invite Pulkit home. Pulkit just announced that he is coming over and no one could stop him.

I feel this gang must have done something to her for her health to get worse.

But she need not have supported him.. she could have just informed everyone and let Pulkit deal with it.

+without knowing details, she took responsibility for someone.

Originally posted by: sukri

But she need not have supported him.. she could have just informed everyone and let Pulkit deal with it.

+without knowing details, she took responsibility for someone.

True that but just dumping all the blame on her when as family members they could have also urged her or themselves could have verified the truth

especially the good ones who are blaming her now . And they are adults and she is a teenager still

That’s the part I don’t get

in fact until the letter came

Everyone was in their dreamland , so now blames should partially be shared by them as well

Originally posted by: Bana

If u were dealing with a mentally ill person and u have a proposition that u know will have a tremendous effect on that person, will u not thoroughly check & verify the proposition before u introduce it to that person? Will u rely only on circumstantial coincidences & gut feel? That may be enough in a normal case but surely not in this case as the slightest error can have major consequences - as a smart girl & medical student even the 19 year old Sai should have been aware of this.

In that sense, Sai is responsible for deterioration in Devi Tai’s condition, imho.

We know Pulkit is good but how can she be so sure? How can she take such a big risk?

I agree but wasn't Aai the one who spoke about Bidaai the day Pulkit came home?

When Devi was hesitant to hold Pulkit's hands and was worried someone will hurt her or Pulkit, didn't Aai vouch for Pulkit saying she knows him and is a good guy? I wouldn't have had issues if these people didnt believe Pulkit on the day he arrived CN.

Did they (Aai or Bua) do any verification, or did they ask Virat or Sai to first do some verification before taking it forward?

It wasn't Sai who said hold his hands, it was Bua who said love birds, get close, like really?

I don't think these people can blame Sai today.

Virat stood by Sai; didn't believe when Pakhi tried to brainwash him, not even when she was on phone with Virat, he only believed Pulkit was a fraud when he gathered an evidence.

Right thing to do was ask Sai to stop getting into this matter. Though she kept challenging she will get them married, she spoke to Virat and asked him to investigate it further.

Also when Virat spoke to Sunny, he said her decision could have made it worse but her intentions were right. He never wanted Sai too to get into trouble.

Whoever (Aai, Bua, Virat, Mohit) blames Sai for this condition would be wrong bevause they themselves believed in that guy blindly the other day. They met him 10 years later or so and Sai has meeting this guy almost everyday. When they could fall for it, what are they expecting from Sai?

It is always easy to put the blame on her.

I am not saying Sai is right in blindly trusting Pulkit, not at all. She should not go only by her trust, she was only determined to get them married but also gave Virat hints that it could all be someone scheming against this wedding. It is not like she got them married. Jaku turned the plates, started to play dangerous game in the absense of Virat.

Sai fell for their acts, she is just a prey.

Hopes were given to Devi by all, the gift scene in Devi's room, bua snd Aai were also a part of it.

Virat withdrew money and gave it to her for wedding expenses.

All these people did it just because Sai had called Pulkit home and they saw him, knew him from the past. Virat also said that Sai would have verified.

None of them would have doubted Pulkit and would have taken baarat to Pulkit's house if cgang did not play a game or plot anything.

And let's say on the day of wedding, the gang plays a game, they would all still blame Sai?

Originally posted by: laksh

I agree but wasn't Aai the one who spoke about Bidaai the day Pulkit came home?

When Devi was hesitant to hold Pulkit's hands and was worried someone will hurt her or Pulkit, didn't Aai vouch for Pulkit saying she knows him and is a good guy? I wouldn't have had issues if these people didnt believe Pulkit on the day he arrived CN.

Did they (Aai or Bua) do any verification, or did they ask Virat or Sai to first do some verification before taking it forward?

It wasn't Sai who said hold his hands, it was Bua who said love birds, get close, like really?

I don't think these people can blame Sai today.

Virat stood by Sai; didn't believe when Pakhi tried to brainwash him, not even when she was on phone with Virat, he only believed Pulkit was a fraud when he gathered an evidence.

Right thing to do was ask Sai to stop getting into this matter. Though she kept challenging she will get them married, she spoke to Virat and asked him to investigate it further.

Also when Virat spoke to Sunny, he said her decision could have made it worse but her intentions were right. He never wanted Sai too to get into trouble.

Whoever (Aai, Bua, Virat, Mohit) blames Sai for this condition would be wrong bevause they themselves believed in that guy blindly the other day. They met him 10 years later or so and Sai has meeting this guy almost everyday. When they could fall for it, what are they expecting from Sai?

It is always easy to put the blame on her.

I am not saying Sai is right in blindly trusting Pulkit, not at all. She should not go only by her trust, she was only determined to get them married but also gave Virat hints that it could all be someone scheming against this wedding. It is not like she got them married. Jaku turned the plates, started to play dangerous game in the absense of Virat.

Sai fell for their acts, she is just a prey.

Hopes were given to Devi by all, the gift scene in Devi's room, bua snd Aai were also a part of it.

Virat withdrew money and gave it to her for wedding expenses.

All these people did it just because Sai had called Pulkit home and they saw him, knew him from the past. Virat also said that Sai would have verified.

None of them would have doubted Pulkit and would have taken baarat to Pulkit's house if cgang did not play a game or plot anything.

And let's say on the day of wedding, the gang plays a game, they would all still blame Sai?

Brilliantly worded my friend.

Originally posted by: notaquitter

True that but just dumping all the blame on her when as family members they could have also urged her or themselves could have verified the truth

especially the good ones who are blaming her now . And they are adults and she is a teenager still

That’s the part I don’t get

in fact until the letter came

Everyone was in their dreamland , so now blames should partially be shared by them as well

Till the letter came the good ones were all in dresmland, correct. But when the letter came they at least got skeptical & were willing to pause & consider. While Sai was like a stubborn know it all antaryami who disregarded the letter, the change of info in the form, the maa for madhuri nonsense, and still insisted that she & she alone is right, even in the face of contrary evidence.

Worse, because she thinks she is right, she sees no reason to investigate or produce evidence to corroborate her belief unless she is pressurised for it.

We are chastising Aai for backtracking but that is the responsible thing to do under the circumstances - we know the CN mafia has done this khel but Aai doesnt, to her there is real evidence against Pulkit so she has to withdraw support to protect Devi. And from her pov, Sai does look stubborn & ridiculous.

Originally posted by: Bana

Till the letter came the good ones were all in dresmland, correct. But when the letter came they at least got skeptical & were willing to pause & consider. While Sai was like a stubborn know it all antaryami who disregarded the letter, the change of info in the form, the maa for madhuri nonsense, and still insisted that she & she alone is right, even in the face of contrary evidence.

Worse, because she thinks she is right, she sees no reason to investigate or produce evidence to corroborate her belief unless she is pressurised for it.

We are chastising Aai for backtracking but that is the responsible thing to do under the circumstances - we know the CN mafia has done this khel but Aai doesnt, to her there is real evidence against Pulkit so she has to withdraw support to protect Devi. And from her pov, Sai does look stubborn & ridiculous.

Tagging laksh to answer this as she words it better

I liked the episode. It's the oft mentioned problem we have with Sai. She's very stubborn about her own POV. In the case of Devi, it has turned out to be dangerous because Devi is not in the right mental state of mind.

I think the makers have addressed this complaint too, that Sai gets away with everything and ultimately Sai to Sahi hoti hai. The audience knows the truth. But in the Ghum world, they don't. Aai was trying to protect Devi and Sai. Devi however is the priority now, for obvious reasons.

I like this track much more than what must've been planned with KD. Though I know the C gang may get away with it.

Harini has still not been mentioned! Definitely, she will play a pivotal role.

Virat asking her to leave also makes sense because it's about Devi Tai. He has also been shown to be very protective about his sister.

Of course Sai will solve the mystery. Let's give the makers that leeway. It's a desi soap, cannot happen otherwise.

I was happy someone was not there to bring down the impact of the scenes!

Originally posted by: notaquitter

Brilliantly worded my friend.

The last statement is something I have been thinking for a while.

If Sai is wrong, others also are.

Thankfully Virat gathered some evidence and asked Sai to stay out of it only on that basis.

But asking Sai to bring Pulkit home again is all Kaku's deed, not sure what Sai was planning but they made her do it.

Who knows though she kept telling she will get them united, the way she tried to explain to Virat, she might have decided to wait for Virat's investigation after he had last spoken to her.

They have played her, they know talking to her softly will work on her. She will rebel if they take a wrong tone, they didn't instigate her to do anything but tricked her to do it and took away all the support she had at at home too. I am not saying Virat might have supported her if he was here today in the place of Aai or Bua but I feel this day wouldn't have come if he was there. None of them would have dared to play this kind of a game if he was around.

He is not just Devi's brother or Sai's husband, he is also a police officer who would have used his power to find out Pulkit's whereabouts.

Also most importantly he would have rejected Kaku's idea to ask Sai bring Pulkit home by saying he doesn't believe in Pulkit and no one will talk about it until he investigates it further.

He would have been stern with both Kaku and Sai. If he had told Sai that they will take steps only after he is convinced, she would have let him do his work going by how she tried to convince him to check this matter once again.

There have been many times Sai has done what Virat has asked her to do. How can we not give her a benefit of doubt that if Kaku had not created this new drama, she wouldn't have waited for Virat to dig details?

When Sai decides to trust someone on this level, she goes all out for them. She did doubt him initially, but once it was cleared, she now trusts him. The day she called him Jiju, he has unknowingly reached a place in her heart like a brother maybe (along with the fact she has been interacting with him for 6-8 months in college where she spends most of her time) .

Just like how Virat has a bias towards his family and needs super strong evidence to go against them, Sai also needs super strong evidence to go against Pulkit at this point.

So even now she believes him.

She could have played smart, by showing her faith on Pulkit waver due to the letter, but working with him behind their back to gather evidence. But she is a straightforward person, who doesn't play games like these.

But precap gives me hope, maybe she will play a game afterall.