Why did he bring Janvi with him?

Originally posted by: petrova-fire

Ok so this could be just me because I have been skimming through the episodes and MIA on the forum too but in yesterday's episode, why did Raghav bring Janvi with him to the house after V was caught trying to steal the money?

I guess I am a little confused on what Raghav's plan was -- from what I understood, they were framing V and he would be arrested and Janvi is then free. If that was it, then I guess he should have left J behind and confirmed that V was behind bars before he brought her back. If V had seen her, the troubles would only have multiplied with V knowing of R's involvement. I feel like Raghav may have underestimated Viraj here.

But then again, there are still better and simpler ways to get V arrested. For one, they have Gayatri who has direct connections with the police commissioner. But that would be too simple of a solution to run a show so I guess something a bit more complicated is needed.

And when they come up with that complication, I want it to be such that does not dumb down Viraj because for me, the most exciting aspect of the show now is the interaction between Viraj & Raghav. And that can only be made exciting if V doesn't change and R is still able to outsmart him. That would so glorify Raghav for me without ruining that image of the perfect villain that I have for Viraj.

If you look at things logically, there's no logic. You see, pasaofying V won't change much. He'll still have the pictures of Raghav with the knife. He'll still be able to put Raghav in jail along with himself. Plus, Sia could just file a complaint against V and pour out the truth -- that he's a stalker psychopath, that he raped her, attempted murder, and committed DV. I am quite sure Komolika could be used as a witness if persuaded.

But I feel like the writers are trying to steer the story back on track right now. If you have noticed Jahnvi's character development in the past two episodes, for instance, you'll see what I mean. They're trying to steer it back now, but since they've involved Shekhawat -- and started this whole cat and mouse thing -- they have some loose ends to tie before it can happen.

I feel like right now, they've come closer to the original theme of the story than before -- if you take Jahnvi's character. She has started to question God. They have started to really develop her character now, baby steps at the time, but nonetheless -- steps. I just hope it will be kept up from now on.

I don't think that they're making V dumb. You see, his character is such -- or that's at least my interpretation -- that when he feels that he's losing control [like he did with Sia], things begin to slip for him, he makes mistakes and overlooks things that he would normally never overlook. Because he's distracted and confused and a overconfident. Just watch how he wandered in to steal the money, or still hasn't figured Shekhawat out yet. He's so distracted and out of control that he can't connect the dots -- yet. But he will. And then he'll be royally PMS.

Personally, I feel that the story -- despite its loose ends and a bit missing DV theme -- is finally returning to what I remember the show character-wise. And here I'm focusing on Jahnvi, not anyone else. I actually liked her for the first time after a long time yesterday.

There are some bloopers -- like the suspense [Raghav taking her with, leaving her alone outside the house, etc.] but I was willing to overlook it for now because of the progress I saw in Jahnvi's character depth. If it was any hint, her dialogues were made more powerful which shows me that the writers are working on her character now. She was never a character who could fight V alone. She was always dependent on external forces for help. And that's okay. It's realistic too. Am hoping that track-wise, they'll try to keep things as logical as possible, but let's face it. It is a fictional show, in the end, and for any fictional show to run for a long time -- situations must be twisted.

As for the concept of the show, I addressed this issue in my character sketch. It's time that Jahnvi takes up her own battle as well in this. And her battle is divorce. She has Raghav's resources to back her up, so I hope they'll introduce this track soon.

Originally posted by: -prime-

Me too didnt understand whats this traping V in stealing money case which look so dumb. Even if got he jailed then bail was very much possible as V could some manage to arrange the stolen money from his manali account in a day or two.Its not that R trapped him in murder case and which he cant get easily.

Just trying to frame him for anything is a stupid idea. He is not in Manali. He doesn't own this place. You have Janvi testifying and witnesses such as Dr. K which will do the trick. No need to try to defeat Viraj at his own game -- unless it is at the same level as Viraj's usual games but clearly not. If all they care about is getting him punished by getting him caught then that is very simple to do really.

J was selfpitying standing outside the mansion , what if V had seen her standing there and the whole plot would have floped .When V was walking around in his room, I was kind of thinking he may walk over the window where Janvi felt the need to talk OUT LOUD about her problems. Like seriously, she can think to herself. It worried me because there was this one scene when Raghav tells Krish about his feelings for Sia and V is in his room and apparently he heard it (? Still don't know if that was an editing blooper or meant to be). But still silence is the way to go when you're trying to hide. 😕 Why R and J take G3 into confidence and get VD arrested in Krish kidnapping with Shethawat testifing against V as MAIN plotter and after getting V jailed then they proceed in DV case and J getting justice as not manali where he owns everyone. Haha just said the same thing on the last para didn't I?😆

Wondering what the role of J now in this fight as R will do everything with backup of G3 power. ppl say that J cant fight alone and needs R to fight agianst V but what about J supposed fight getting weaker and pushed in background with R taking center stage against V. I do agree with people when they say she can't fight alone, both physically and emotionally. Physically for obvious reasons. And emotionally because I don't know, she is one of the weakest female leads I have ever seen trapped in one of the hardest situations I have ever seen as well -- outcome, she needs a saviour. It could still have been done right though. She can at least try to suggest what to do next rather than literally asking Raghav for the next step or asking him if she will get a happy ending. He is not responsible for giving her that happy ending -- she has to play her part in that as well.

Want V to get punished but also want J to be main person in V s downfall and getting punished but now R is doing all ploting to punish V. Story is moving in direction in which other will fight and J getting all the credit in the end. Its not the way any real DV victim get juctice like this. Exactly. Whatever they decide to do with V, Janvi stepping in at the very end doesn't mean that SHE was the one who got justice for herself. I want her to be proactive along the way as well.

Makers did major blunders like glorifying V s evil deeds to no end and fairytale savior thus making show far from reality. Glorifying evil I agree with but the fairytale saviour I would have to disagree. I don't have a problem with her having a saviour and reaching out for help -- I have a problem with her passing on her burden entirely to the saviour. THAT is what I have a problem with. A little too much dependency.

Originally posted by: petrova-fire

Originally posted by: Elysia

Rove, good to see your post in this forum :-) About to read this now and hope no chappals 😆 Ana, I have totally given up on the show

Originally posted by: petrova-fire

About to read this now and hope no chappals 😆 Ana, I have totally given up on the show

Why would I throw chappals at you? You don't mean to patronize anyone or provoke 😳

You stated your opinion on the current track. Fair enough 😉

Still iffy on this. She doesn't seem to be getting stronger. Even her plea to God yesterday...if she had just asked for strength for herself to be able to fight off V and done nothing else, I would've been happy. But then she started her complaints again. Life sucks -- accept it and move on.

On the contrary, I didn't find it a complaint or self-pity or any of that sort, for once. In fact, I thought they gave her character depth by having her raise existential questions based on her experiences. This made her reflective rather than full of self-pity. She was losing faith in a God when she'd observed evil prevail again and again. She has never really had this thought before in this way -- raising existential questions.

We have seen her ask for strength too many times and nothing has come out of it. But at last night, she asked if God even knew what was right and wrong and how humans were supposed to deal with it when even God seemed lost. I found these questions reflective and valid -- I felt that she'd finally been given a brain to think deeper.

I don't think he feels he is losing control. He doesn't accept defeat that easy. Which is why the games continue. Even when he totally loses his mind, he is still somewhat in control. Like the time when he was trying to figure out whether Janvi had seen him on the roof when Dadi fell from the terrace. He literally lost his mind but he didn't stop. Didn't wait for the answer to come itself. He just didn't stop -- came up with all these insane ideas. If we could see him doing that, practicing his insanity in search on Janvi, then that is true to his characterization. Raghav spoonfeeding him what must have happened to Janvi and him accpeting it just like that is not very much like V...at least to me.

If you look at it from another angle, V is spoonfeeding himself. I don't believe that he feels out of control either. He feels in control. But he isn't, and therein lies the reason behind his distracted behavior resulting in missed details.

Plus, he is actually obsessing and finding ways to reach Jahnvi. He just doesn't care for Shekhawat anymore as he sees him as brainless goon who's greedy for money. Same way that he's understimating Raghav, thinking of him as muscle only. In addition to that, he's overconfident. He is one hundred per cent sure that no one suspects him at all. Not Gayatri, not Raghav, no one. Like he told Sia, he has made his place in the Singhs' home.

Just wish the twists were fun though. Setting up a robbery wasn't the most creative idea. If you're bending reality, it should be done for a good reason. A good reason for a TV show is entertainment. To think that a robbery prank was the best CVs could come up with for entertainment is sad.

The robbery thing was stupid. I admit that. But I have to credit the writers for trying to tie up loose ends here and steer the story back on track. Because as of tonight, Shekhawat has gone and probably won't return again. V is returning to Manali, and it seemed that Raghav and Sia were doing the same. Let's see. I'm giving the writers the benefit of the doubt as of right now. They're trying. It shows in the flow of scenes, lessened suspense, play out of scenes, character depth and growth.

Just anything from her. Anything. Just do something for yourself, Janvi. Divorce won't cross her mind soon so I won't get my hopes up. I'll be surprised if they bring it up at all looking at how they have been handling things.

From where I stand, Jahnvi has finally started growing a personality rather than being a flat, brainless character. Even when she faced V, she was flat in personality. They were just dialogues thrown out to wow audiences that oh, look, she's standing up for herself. I didn't actually buy it, even though SJ performed it well and the shots were awesome.

I'm buying this Jahnvi. The one who's tired of fighting. The one's who's human and just being a little selfish, letting Raghav fight for a while while she deals with her psychological pain. If you noticed, Jahnvi never really treated her internal wounds, never confided in anyone before Raghav, not so openly, allowing herself to put words on what she'd felt during the torture. This is character growth in Jahnvi.

She is just now coming to terms with internal pain, the psychological burden and wound V left on her. She's only now allowing tears to flow for the right reasons -- not because she's pitying herself, but because it hurts. She's exhausted. And I feel that I respect her more for admitting it than for pretending she's strong and mahaan.

Originally posted by: petrova-fire

I find it absolutely insulting that Jhanvi isn't doing anything when this is supposedly her battle. She goes to her "Raghavji" asking him what their next plan is. She goes to her "Raghavji" if the plan will work or not. She goes to him for everything. Where are you in this Jhanvi? How are you becoming any stronger by using a third person to defeat Viraj? I thought you win over your fears by facing them. Clearly Jhanvi isn't doing that. Already commented on this. There isn't too much J can do which she has proven to me in the past few months. She has failed me time and time again. And whatever little part she can do like at least putting her input into Raghav's actions, she is sidelined. I doubt all victims are THAT weak. Like they say, what doesn't kill you only makes you stronger. Clearly not the case here.

Originally posted by: mysticgoryfilms

Petrova, last time I was in a hurry so couldn't really comment on this. I agree with the rest of your post but I can't agree with people who say Jhanvi can't do anything, or she doesn't have the courage to do much.

Because it's been shown Jhanvi can't do anything for months now people automatically assume she won't be able to do anything in the future as well. That's the problem. We have seen sparks where Jhanvi does have the courage to stand up against him. When she complained to the NGO people is one example. She said Viraj abuses her right in front of him, too bad it backfired on her. And ironically, this is the Jhanvi from Manali. Like I said in the beginning, Jhanvi had more strength and was more willing to speak up when she was in Manali. Even in the beginning as well, Jhanvi would constantly tell Viraj that he can't see her in pain when it was him who would give her pain in the first place. She questioned him many times why he would do this to her. And that she was his wife. He can't expect anything out of her if he'll only give her pain. The fact that she could even say that in front of him showed her strength.

Now the Jhanvi in Gurgaon, for some reason, is so dependent on someone else and makes it seem like she can't do anything on her own. She is even more scared of Viraj than she ever was. That is where the problem lies. This should have been the opposite. They should have shown Jhanvi not being able to do anything when she was in Manali, and gaining courage when she was in Gurgaon.

This is why members think she can't do anything and needs someone else's help. I think you guys are underestimating Jhanvi. She can very well tackle Viraj all by herself. Which is why I am so against some third person fighting this battle for her. It just defeats the whole purpose of this show.