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Posted: 2 years ago

Deviyon or sajano 50 rupee ki overacting ke liye apka aaj ka sawal

Devil ko hai? Aur dance kon kar Raha?

A) garima and harshad

B) shahi and Zama

C) lota yaa hariyali

D) Suraj and Sitara

E) boat and Mayo

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Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by: Veenapai

So now Zama Habib also quoted something on his insta story

This is the quote


"Victim mindset will have you dancing with the devil, then complaining that you're in hell"

Sab ke sab nibbapan pe utar aaye hai. What's wrong with these people? Either speak out or solve it among yourself. What's with these cryptic messages that will definitely rile up fans. And get uninvolved people bashed too. I'm sure Jay will get unnecessary hate for these people's nautanki too.

Btw I'm surprised PR didn't post anything.

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Posted: 2 years ago

Phew....smiley44


Read the RS v/s HC thing.


My 2 cents.


I understand what Jane is saying, but I don't think HC is that powerful. If he had any problems, he could have quit a long time, but then paise? And Somehow you really don't want to start out an open war in entertainment industry. Entertainment industry is surprisingly united. be it bollywood, hollywood or ITV. If HC would have started his war (you know just say what he is going through..), he would not have gotten that many support and may be even ostracized from the industry in extreme case. His indirect approach is still OK. That is the safest way.


Also I have never followed the ITV outside what is shown in the TV so no idea about how RS or EK or Gul or Sumeet Sashi are like. But I can expect that being a risky industry out there none off these people are spotless clean. So I can 100% believe Aadhya saying about RS. Now, Does RS deserve this passive aggressive attacks? I guess so... He can also do UNO reverse anytime, we can always expect see taunts going towards HC veiled in sweet praises for some other guy. They both know what they are doing now. It's a dog eat dog world, and the strongest dog gets the meat. Yes.. I am filled with optimism.


And now my personal comments on these people based on what I saw till now.


So when they HC was coming to rishta.. I remember everyone being so excited in this forum, because HC takes only 'good' scripts. I was skeptical because, rishta might have been good during the initial times.. I don't know. But not when It is stretched for more than a decade. And seeing the initial episodes, I understood that HC was only for money.


See, I have seen HC's performance before. he is a good actor, I understand. But like every actor have their comfort zone. HC's comfort zone felt like the angry young man thing. Ristha was mostly HC's comfort zone. He is/was not in the serial for any great acting experience or great script. He wanted money. I respect that.


And RS was also not much interested in the show, He would have never chosen Ichchee nodee if he actually thought about it. He heavily relied on HC's popularity among young ladies and he just wanted money. Not just him, every single PH is relaying on handsome men (most preferably well known actor) with a great female fan following to kick start the show. Yes, after words they should concentrate on the story otherwise it would never keep the show afloat.


Neither HC nor RS was much invested in this season. and it shows clearly. So why go through this hassle without any interest.


But ITV is not what it used to be. There is a large market out there still for ITV. But it is facing huge competition from international shows like Korean Japanese Pakistani and OTT Platform series, Anime etc.

Actually I will rant about this later. But HC is not that young anymore and he needed this show for some more time. RS is also not going through nice phase. He needs at least one show to stay afloat. And No matter how much we debate on TRP threads, I know That good story, great acting or grand sets nothing gives the correct answer. otherwise Sony TV and Yashraj Telefilms collaboration could have brought some success instead of being such grand national disaster that it was. Parineeti is also great contradiction, where there is no great story or acting or set, still it stayed afloat. Most off the times it is just dream sequences after dream sequence. Why? No one know? it is always just some shows that click! and RS just like everyone tries to copy whatever they understood.


Now to what Sejal said,


I feel HC and PR and all the other actors who do the cringe couple thingy is OK though. It is somewhat necessary at times like this. The idiots who actually ship them are to be blamed to be that manipulated. They are crazy teenagers.. they will grow up and learn. What to do?


Whether HC was instigating his fans? Maybe... He did not defend JS when his fans attacked JS but those kind of toxic fans are like parasites. Can anyone control those kind of idiots who couldn't differentiate between reel and real? Those idiots will one day have serious life with real life problems, only then they differentiate these things. By then more idiots would have taken their vacant seats. There is no stopping them.


HC didn't care as far as I feel, He just wanted a fat paycheck. And That was it. And maybe he like the ego boost he receives when many praise his abs and slim body. He is a man in his 40's why wouldn't he?


His sad depressed act during interviews and passive aggressive comments would be from his ego. Why not? Just because he is senior and experienced does not mean that he have to be humble.


I feel HC is still not comfortable to play supporting character. so he is desperately trying to hold on to the ML position till the end.


So TLDR; I feel both HC and RS are egoistic, vain, money minded jerks.

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Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by: janecastle

Sab ke sab nibbapan pe utar aaye hai. What's wrong with these people? Either speak out or solve it among yourself. What's with these cryptic messages that will definitely rile up fans. And get uninvolved people bashed too. I'm sure Jay will get unnecessary hate for these people's nautanki too.

Btw I'm surprised PR didn't post anything.


First, I think PR is not saying anything, because she does not have anything witty... yet. It is difficult to be ambiguous and witty. It takes years of experience.



I kinda tried saying this in my long rant just now... Entertainment industries everywhere is superficially strongly united. They like to show that they are like a great family.


So outright fights just exiles you from the kingdom.


Small jabs at each other...bitter remarks... sure why not? That is allowable.. after all which family does not fight?

Edited by umawanderer - 2 years ago
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Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by: umawanderer

Phew....smiley44


Read the RS v/s HC thing.


My 2 cents.


I understand what Jane is saying, but I don't think HC is that powerful. If he had any problems, he could have quit a long time, but then paise? And Somehow you really don't want to start out an open war in entertainment industry. Entertainment industry is surprisingly united. be it bollywood, hollywood or ITV. If HC would have started his war (you know just say what he is going through..), he would not have gotten that many support and may be even ostracized from the industry in extreme case. His indirect approach is still OK. That is the safest way.


Also I have never followed the ITV outside what is shown in the TV so no idea about how RS or EK or Gul or Sumeet Sashi are like. But I can expect that being a risky industry out there none off these people are spotless clean. So I can 100% believe Aadhya saying about RS. Now, Does RS deserve this passive aggressive attacks? I guess so... He can also do UNO reverse anytime, we can always expect see taunts going towards HC veiled in sweet praises for some other guy. They both know what they are doing now. It's a dog eat dog world, and the strongest dog gets the meat. Yes.. I am filled with optimism.


And now my personal comments on these people based on what I saw till now.


So when they HC was coming to rishta.. I remember everyone being so excited in this forum, because HC takes only 'good' scripts. I was skeptical because, rishta might have been good during the initial times.. I don't know. But not when It is stretched for more than a decade. And seeing the initial episodes, I understood that HC was only for money.


See, I have seen HC's performance before. he is a good actor, I understand. But like every actor have their comfort zone. HC's comfort zone felt like the angry young man thing. Ristha was mostly HC's comfort zone. He is/was not in the serial for any great acting experience or great script. He wanted money. I respect that.


And RS was also not much interested in the show, He would have never chosen Ichchee nodee if he actually thought about it. He heavily relied on HC's popularity among young ladies and he just wanted money. Not just him, every single PH is relaying on handsome men (most preferably well known actor) with a great female fan following to kick start the show. Yes, after words they should concentrate on the story otherwise it would never keep the show afloat.


Neither HC nor RS was much invested in this season. and it shows clearly. So why go through this hassle without any interest.


But ITV is not what it used to be. There is a large market out there still for ITV. But it is facing huge competition from international shows like Korean Japanese Pakistani and OTT Platform series, Anime etc.

Actually I will rant about this later. But HC is not that young anymore and he needed this show for some more time. RS is also not going through nice phase. He needs at least one show to stay afloat. And No matter how much we debate on TRP threads, I know That good story, great acting or grand sets nothing gives the correct answer. otherwise Sony TV and Yashraj Telefilms collaboration could have brought some success instead of being such grand national disaster that it was. Parineeti is also great contradiction, where there is no great story or acting or set, still it stayed afloat. Most off the times it is just dream sequences after dream sequence. Why? No one know? it is always just some shows that click! and RS just like everyone tries to copy whatever they understood.


Now to what Sejal said,


I feel HC and PR and all the other actors who do the cringe couple thingy is OK though. It is somewhat necessary at times like this. The idiots who actually ship them are to be blamed to be that manipulated. They are crazy teenagers.. they will grow up and learn. What to do?


Whether HC was instigating his fans? Maybe... He did not defend JS when his fans attacked JS but those kind of toxic fans are like parasites. Can anyone control those kind of idiots who couldn't differentiate between reel and real? Those idiots will one day have serious life with real life problems, only then they differentiate these things. By then more idiots would have taken their vacant seats. There is no stopping them.


HC didn't care as far as I feel, He just wanted a fat paycheck. And That was it. And maybe he like the ego boost he receives when many praise his abs and slim body. He is a man in his 40's why wouldn't he?


His sad depressed act during interviews and passive aggressive comments would be from his ego. Why not? Just because he is senior and experienced does not mean that he have to be humble.


I feel HC is still not comfortable to play supporting character. so he is desperately trying to hold on to the ML position till the end.


So TLDR; I feel both HC and RS are egoistic, vain, money minded jerks.

exactly they both are the same..I don’t pity Harshad at all. He was male lead of this show until the end..so what is there to complain about. But I have to say some thing about Jay..because it shows us the kind and humble human that he is. In an interview Jay said he was shocked,..because his character was going well..yet one day suddenly he got told his character is ending..he was sad and said he didn’t sleep well that night but realised it was needed for the story. And that was the professional in him.. he didn’t bad mouth anybody..he just left peacefully and still only says good things about everybody. So regarding harshad..if the story felt abrohi was required why couldn’t he just do it.. because truth be told .. the story would have made sense if abrohi and akshnav ended up as the end game couples. Because now the story is one huge mess. Reunion of abhira makes zero sense..
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Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by: janecastle

I don't know how much we can trust these tweets. But this is the second time someone mentioned HC denying to go ahead with AbRohi. I wonder why? He would still be the ML, PR will be the FL and Jay and Karishma would be parallel leads. It is just that pairings would be different. But his character would have had a very nice arc with his bonding with Roohi and the maturity in AbRohi relationship. His character's importance would not be reduced at all. So why was he so against this development? Why was he interfering in creative process, which was none of his business? Just because he won't be able to romance PR's character? If there's any truth to this, then HC is a highly unprofessional actor who ruined a show because of his personal reasons.


P.S: I'm not saying any of this is true. I'm just being curious.

Just my opinion..

Hc may be ok with abrohi if played by some popular actor like jennifer r erica😅( not to offend any one. If he is saying no to abhirohi..im finding this is only logical reason😂 its not like he is saying no as techically arohi is his bro widow r ex wife sis..if that is the case he wont do tilaks r engagements those many times with arooo😅)

Edited by MiniCupcake - 2 years ago
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Posted: 2 years ago

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exactly they both are the same..I don’t pity Harshad at all. He was male lead of this show until the end..so what is there to complain about. But I have to say some thing about Jay..because it shows us the kind and humble human that he is. In an interview Jay said he was shocked,..because his character was going well..yet one day suddenly he got told his character is ending..he was sad and said he didn’t sleep well that night but realised it was needed for the story. And that was the professional in him.. he didn’t bad mouth anybody..he just left peacefully and still only says good things about everybody. So regarding harshad..if the story felt abrohi was required why couldn’t he just do it.. because truth be told .. the story would have made sense if abrohi and akshnav ended up as the end game couples. Because now the story is one huge mess. Reunion of abhira makes zero sense..


HC and JS are two different people.


HC is not comfortable playing non-ML roles. While we can say that JS is comfortable with any kind of role.


HC is smart and experienced. HC knew that his pairing with non-FL is just 2 steps away from his character to tossed aside. Abrohi would have been a suicide mission.


For example:

In Balika Vadhu, till Jagya was a potential ML his story was given equal importance along with Anandi's but then after Shiv came in and Jagya's ss started decreasing and his story became less interesting. Later Jagya, his wife all changed and they were shown only when Anandi needed them.


ITV's formula makes it really difficult to concentrate on parallel stories equally. There are some cases where they do (MJHT, EHMBH)but many a time parallel stories do not work.(Swaragini, DMG,KKB etc)


There is nothing called story requirement. The story can be always improved at any time in ITV if handled by nice creative team. Unfortunately RS didn't invest in them much this season.


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Posted: 2 years ago

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What is Garima problem ? They didn't fire her for something that was giving high trps and was number one show. What is RS supposed to do if her work was not clicking with audience and another team had to be roped him


So where was this angst indirect taunts when she was actually removed from shoe, ideally that's when this should have happened na, why wen she was brought back again after Abhinavs death and her " magical beautiful " creation didn't click with audience and RS had to take a call and end the gen yo go back to the roots.


Why wouldn't he call zama who worked with the most successful gen to recreate thr magic and lift the sinking ship, it clicked with audience so what , HC and garima still had their twi mins under the sun after abhinav char dies, and it simply didn't work. So why being salty now ? When this is how every industry works


If I don't do my job and give results I will be chucked out and replaced , ismei what's unfair. The storyvis bad. Audience connect with the story. No one is relating to aesthictaclly pleasing besht couple, move on


I don't get what RS or any PH should do, should they create a monument for all legacy actors for their contribution every time a new gen or an interview happens. Bhai it's his story his money. People are talking as if only PH is eating the money and all actors don't throw tantrums and are working for free, and didn't get any fame money or popularity from the very show and PH


why is it different got itv when all this happens at all of our careers, we end up with a job that we dislike due to bonds we sign when we join and we are stuck, still we work and take the money.


Story should always take precedent over actors. But for makers money > story

Is garima back? Then y people in MF saying zama is making akshara charcterless..🙄 by seeing their posts.im still thinking zama is still giving creative inputs to yrkkh

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Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by: Veenapai

So now Zama Habib also quoted something on his insta story

This is the quote


"Victim mindset will have you dancing with the devil, then complaining that you're in hell"

Im unable to decode it☹️ thanks to my poor English comprehension skills😑

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Posted: 2 years ago

My take

I really dont like RS way of behaving with actors

I dont know back stry as im not gen 1 follower bt I felt bad in case of hina n karan when i got to know rs didnt acknowledged their work...

I would have appreciated hc if he gave open statemt abt RS hitler behaviour (after his contract ended) ..instead of these cryptic message which is indirectly instigating his teen fans who r already taking everything to their heart.

Edited by MiniCupcake - 2 years ago

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