DEVI SECRETELY IN LOVE WITH ASHOK - Page 3

Originally posted by: aparupanath

😭The makers should stop portraying her as Kaurwaki's maid and bring out the actual personality of Devi following the original texts.

Originally posted by: BeingBlunt

WHAT??😲 What's that Forbidden thing you are talking about? Do the Cvs even know there is something like that? I see they mostly following the movie and adding their own inputs.

Originally posted by: adhyakumarijha

Tumhare mooh main ghee sakar, dairy milk, perk, 5 star (plz share it with me )I so want that to happen 😊

Originally posted by: BeingBlunt

Posted this same thought about a month ago in EDT here:

Since the thread is closed posting it again.

Knew it the moment Devi was introduced that she likes ashoka/chand somewhere. But she will never tell about her love. Because that's how hindi shows work. Didn't in ujjain because she was too scared and wont do it now because ashok is a prince and she is a normal girl . Now she is not even a normal girl, she is a dasi to a rajkumari.

Now when dharma will notice the signs and add 2+2 and ask Devi about her feelings for ashoka she will pour her heart out from when she has liked ashoka and now she loves him. I wont be surprised if Devi says she loved ashok from childhood. Dvs can go to that extent. But she would say that she does not want to be an obstacle in the eternal love story of her BFF 😡

Now i absolutely dont see any logic and situation Ashvi will be married happily?

I am so damn sure there will be a pity marriage and ashok will be a devdas. 🤢

If this does not happen and Dvs find a way for a happy marriage of ashvi and that too before Ash...Wacky marriage, i will use proper names and never Bash DVs.

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You are absolutely right, my dear Suyash, and it is very perceptive of you. For once, you have not shied away from describing and analysing emotions with great sensitivity, instead of just wise-cracking. And no, your memory is not at fault at all.

But as for me, this was obvious to me for a long time. Right from when Devi gets up at all sorts of odd hours of the night to feed Ashoka and to try and shield him from Dharma's wrath. The vat savitri pooja bit,which you have noted so cleverly, was only a recent instance.

All this in return for the merest casual acknowledgement from his side. In Ujjaini, he treats her like an ever supportive sidekick, and it is only after they all come to Pataliputra that he starts valuing her qualities of head and heart far more, and tells her so when they are together in Kaurwaki's sick room. Of course this is mostly because she is so supportive of his relationship with Kaurwaki.

However, I would interpret Devi's overall behaviour in a slightly different fashion. I am not so sure that she herself knows how much she is in love with Ashoka. As distinct from loving him, which can be quite a different thing. That is why I wrote here some days back in my Pot pourri post:

I think Devi does care a lot for Ashoka - this was evident when he was still in her father's house - but she does not yet see him in romantic terms, not even when there was no Kaurwaki on the horizon. And now that her dear friend is in love with Ashoka, he has become paraya dhan, at least for the present!

I do not think Devi wants to acknowledge, even to herself, that she is in love with Ashoka. There a fine line between affectionate friendship and love, and it is exceedingly difficult to cross over from the former to the latter. One is afraid of non-reciprocation - and in this case, once Devi learns about Kaurwaki from Ashoka muttering in his sleep, this is a given - and of losing even the friendship in the ensuing awkwardness.

Then, with with such unreciprocated love comes pain and suffering, which has to be hidden from prying eyes. There is the endless agony of being near the loved one without being able to give him even the slightest hint of what you really feel. In Devi's case, the double pain of having to watch him melt in love for another woman. As things are, she cannot even get away, which is the classic solution in such cases.

No sensible woman would want to be in this kind of hellish situation indefinitely. So Devi has, most likely unconsciously, built a firewall around her heart as far as her love for Ashoka is concerned. She has convinced herself that all she feels for him is not love, but the deepest, most affectionate kind of friendship.

There too, she would naturally want his happiness under any and all circumstances, but without any expectations for herself. So she can flit around promoting the love of Ashoka's life, without acknowledging, even to herself, what this really costs her. She does not consciously pretend to be the greatest supporter of Ashoka's love for Kaurwaki, she actually is that, in all sincerity. All this needs is a lot of emotional discipline, and Devi, who is as strong as they come, has enough of this and more.

So naturally she gets ready to fight for the love of her friends - her friendship for Kaurwaki is just as sincere as her love for Ashoka - against the jyotishi and against niyati itself, with the same ferocity with which she terrorised Anandini for having dared to try and ruin Kaurwaki's life.

More than being a conscious sacrifice, as you see it - and what can she sacrifice when she has nothing in her hands to give away but some of Ashoka's casual affection and regard for her? - it is the only possible self-defence mechanism that she has under the circumstances.

That she does not let on about the truth even to herself is clear from the fact that we have never been shown even a hint, in a private moment, that Devi is in love with Ashoka. There is not the slightest hint of longing in her eyes as she looks at him, or when she watches him with Kaurwaki. She is never shown daydreaming about him or fantasising about the two of them.

I would not, as you have done, make Devi out to be one of those cliched self-sacrificing females from the old Gemini films of the 1960s, where a younger sister gave up the love of her life to her elder sister who was also in love with him. She is something rarer and more admirable. And why compare her with Kaurwaki at all?

Devi is like a yogini who has successfully sublimated the deepest, hidden desire of her heart, and turned it into something that can be open, acceptable to all, and above all, not hurtful, in the first place for herself.

When she hugs Ashoka, it might be that it was the sole flare up of what lies hidden in her. But that is not a conscious action. It is involuntary, and Devi herself sees it as she describes it. It is far better so for her.

Devi's real trials will begin after after Kaurwaki has left the scene for the indefinite future, and she herself has somehow ended up marrying Ashoka. For then - in the continuous proximity of the wedded state with a man who is not there at all for her in the way her heart demands, and will never be - things will become much tougher as her self-defence mechanism starts breaking down. My heart goes out to her, poor child.

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by BeingBlunt

Just watched the episode again i am 100% sure Devi loves ashok more than KVK. YES More than her, I have never ever seen KVK this aggressive and determined for ashok ever.

Please remind me if my memory is weak.

Here's my theory :

Devi loves ashok and wants him to be super happy and since she has heard KVK name from his she didn't tell him. In the meantime Nirankush captures Devi and dhaniram and ashok and KVK release them and devi starts loving him more and no matter what happens to her she can't see her ashok sad. Then she gets to know about KVK and gather the fact that this is the girl ashok loves and makes it her life's mission to reunite them because ashok is happy with KVK not her.

Scenes continue and she reaches PP with KVK as her best friend/assistant/dasi/love guru etc.

Since she already has the protection of dharma there is nothing to worry her and she with the help of vitt she tries everything possible to unite them. Some time after even dharma joins. When her mission is about to be completed, just for secure future and happiness of ashok she goes to the sadhu. Sadhu predicts bad future and she loses her mind, she cant let all her hard work get wasted. She will do absolutely anything for Ash...waki union because that's where ashok's happiness lies.

Its always been ashok for her. I might be going too far but if you look at old scenes she has always been centered on ashoka.

There always have been small small indications about devi's liking for ashok but the first big indication was that vat savitri puja. Devu could have only instructed KVK and it would have worked but she didn't . She did the pooja perfectly and also made sure KVK followed the correct method to be double sure that there is not problem. Next indication was the tighter than tight hug which didn't looked friendly at all and she wanted to live this moment as much as possible because she has to leave ashok anyway. And the final nail in the coffin was yesterday's aggression. No one does so much their BFF . She did this for her ashok.

This is what is true love and sacrifice and not what what CVs are showing. Pushing your friend to do suicide is not true love, its being obsessive.

Damn i didnt knew i could write so much. I didn't know how i wrote this much but i saw the episode and read a post on forum and started writing and continued with the flow.

Originally posted by: sashashyam

My dear Suyash,

Your other post on this subject,the one in the latest EDT, is much more interesting and is very sensitive. I had responded to that at considerable length, though you are yet to see that reply of mine. I am reproducing the whole of that exchange below for anyone here who might be interested in it.

One more point for those dreading an Ashoka-Devi marriage and what it would do to Devi. There are many kinds of love. He might never love Devi with the passionate longing he has for Kaurwaki, but there is every reason to believe that over time, Ashoka, who already has high regard for Devi's qualities of head and heart, will develop a lot of affection, caring and respect for her. These are not to be despised.

Lastly, as I had noted earlier in the EDT, the way in which Devi is being pilloried all over for allegedly being servile, almost slavish in waiting hand and foot on Kaurwaki arouses all my protective instincts towards an underdog😉.

In defence of Devi, she is, to my mind, behaving not like a maid, but like one of the girl companions that princesses used to have in till the 19th century. Someone who is not a subordinate but a sakhi, and who cares for her royal friend so much that she wants every little thing to be perfect for her.

The other point is that Devi, being from the commercial class, would not see herself as equal to a princess like Kaurwaki. She must thus be feeling extra attached to her because Kaurwaki treats Devi not only with great kindness, but scrupulously as an equal.

Shyamala Aunty

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Posted: 06 August 2016 at 2:00am | IP Logged

You are absolutely right, my dear Suyash, and it is very perceptive of you. For once, you have not shied away from describing and analysing emotions with great sensitivity, instead of just wise-cracking. And no, your memory is not at fault at all.

But as for me, this was obvious to me for a long time. Right from when Devi gets up at all sorts of odd hours of the night to feed Ashoka and to try and shield him from Dharma's wrath. The vat savitri pooja bit,which you have noted so cleverly, was only a recent instance.

All this in return for the merest casual acknowledgement from his side. In Ujjaini, he treats her like an ever supportive sidekick, and it is only after they all come to Pataliputra that he starts valuing her qualities of head and heart far more, and tells her so when they are together in Kaurwaki's sick room. Of course this is mostly because she is so supportive of his relationship with Kaurwaki.

However, I would interpret Devi's overall behaviour in a slightly different fashion. I am not so sure that she herself knows how much she is in love with Ashoka. As distinct from loving him, which can be quite a different thing. That is why I wrote here some days back in my Pot pourri post:

I think Devi does care a lot for Ashoka - this was evident when he was still in her father's house - but she does not yet see him in romantic terms, not even when there was no Kaurwaki on the horizon. And now that her dear friend is in love with Ashoka, he has become paraya dhan, at least for the present!

I do not think Devi wants to acknowledge, even to herself, that she is in love with Ashoka. There a fine line between affectionate friendship and love, and it is exceedingly difficult to cross over from the former to the latter. One is afraid of non-reciprocation - and in this case, once Devi learns about Kaurwaki from Ashoka muttering in his sleep, is a given - and of losing even the friendship in the ensuing awkwardness.

Then, with with such unreciprocated love comes pain and suffering, which has to be hidden from prying eyes. There is the endless agony of being near the loved one without being able to give him even the slightest hint of what you really feel. In Devi's case, the double pain of having to watch him melt in love for another woman. As things are, she cannot even get away, which is the classic solution in such cases.

No sensible woman would want to be in this kind of hellish situation indefinitely. So Devi has, most likely unconsciously, built a firewall around her heart as far as her love for Ashoka is concerned. She has convinced herself that all she feels for him is not love, but the deepest, most affectionate kind of friendship.

There too, she would naturally want his happiness under any and all circumstances, but without any expectations for herself. So she can flit around promoting the love of Ashoka's life, without acknowledging, even to herself, what this really costs her. She does not consciously pretend to be the greatest supporter of Ashoka's love for Kaurwaki, she actually is that, in all sincerity. All this needs is a lot of emotional discipline, and Devi, who is as strong as they come, has enough of this and more.

So naturally she gets ready to fight for the love of her friends - her friendship for Kaurwaki is just as sincere as her love for Ashoka - against the jyotishi and against niyati itself, with the same ferocity with which she terrorised Anandini for having dared to try and ruin Kaurwaki's life.

More than being a conscious sacrifice, as you see it - and what can she sacrifice when she has nothing in her hands to give away but some of Ashoka's casual affection and regard for her? - it is the only possible self-defence mechanism that she has under the circumstances.

That she does not let on about the truth even to herself is clear from the fact that we have never been shown even a hint, in a private moment, that Devi is in love with Ashoka. There is not the slightest hint of longing in her eyes as she looks at him, or when she watches him with Kaurwaki. She is never shown daydreaming about him or fantasising about the two of them.


I would not, as you have done, make Devi out to be one of those cliched self-sacrificing females from the old Gemini films of the 1960s, where a younger sister gave up the love of her life to her elder sister who was also in love with him. She is something rarer and more admirable. And why compare her with Kaurwaki at all?

Devi is like a yogini who has successfully sublimated the deepest, hidden desire of her heart, and turned it into something that can be open, acceptable to all, and above all, not hurtful, in the first place for herself.

When she hugs Ashoka, it might be that it was the sole flare up of what lies hidden in her. But that is not a conscious action. It is involuntary, and Devi herself sees it as she describes it. It is far better so for her.

Devi's real trials will begin after after Kaurwaki has left the scene for the indefinite future, and she herself has somehow ended up marrying Ashoka. For then - in the continuous proximity of the wedded state with a man who is really not there at all for her in the way her heart demands, and will never be - things will become much tougher as her self-defence mechanism starts breaking down. My heart goes out to her, poor child.

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by BeingBlunt

Just watched the episode again i am 100% sure Devi loves ashok more than KVK. YES More than her, I have never ever seen KVK this aggressive and determined for ashok ever.

Please remind me if my memory is weak.

Here's my theory :

Devi loves ashok and wants him to be super happy and since she has heard KVK name from his she didn't tell him. In the meantime Nirankush captures Devi and dhaniram and ashok and KVK release them and devi starts loving him more and no matter what happens to her she can't see her ashok sad. Then she gets to know about KVK and gather the fact that this is the girl ashok loves and makes it her life's mission to reunite them because ashok is happy with KVK not her.

Scenes continue and she reaches PP with KVK as her best friend/assistant/dasi/love guru etc.

Since she already has the protection of dharma there is nothing to worry her and she with the help of vitt she tries everything possible to unite them. Some time after even dharma joins. When her mission is about to be completed, just for secure future and happiness of ashok she goes to the sadhu. Sadhu predicts bad future and she loses her mind, she cant let all her hard work get wasted. She will do absolutely anything for Ash...waki union because that's where ashok's happiness lies.

Its always been ashok for her. I might be going too far but if you look at old scenes she has always been centered on ashoka.

There always have been small small indications about devi's liking for ashok but the first big indication was that vat savitri puja. Devu could have only instructed KVK and it would have worked but she didn't . She did the pooja perfectly and also made sure KVK followed the correct method to be double sure that there is not problem. Next indication was the tighter than tight hug which didn't looked friendly at all and she wanted to live this moment as much as possible because she has to leave ashok anyway. And the final nail in the coffin was yesterday's aggression. No one does so much their BFF . She did this for her ashok.

This is what is true love and sacrifice and not what what CVs are showing. Pushing your friend to do suicide is not true love, its being obsessive.

Damn i didnt knew i could write so much. I didn't know how i wrote this much but i saw the episode and read a post on forum and started writing and continued with the flow.

Originally posted by: adhyakumarijha

Welcome aunty

i am adhya thank you for replying spot on by both you nd suyash 👏 even my heart goes out for that girl at the same time my respect for her has grown i respect her selflessness nd purity of her heart i feel that her endurance is her strength something that ashok s lack as i feel he is way more impulsice nd spmetime acts without thinking which ultimately lead him to trouble sp after their marriage devi will be a perfect "better half" for him somebody who would tell me when to act somebody would be their for him without any "request or demands"

Originally posted by: sashashyam

My dear Suyash,

Your other post on this subject,the one in the latest EDT, is much more interesting and is very sensitive. I had responded to that at considerable length, though you are yet to see that reply of mine. I am reproducing the whole of that exchange below for anyone here who might be interested in it.

One more point for those dreading an Ashoka-Devi marriage and what it would do to Devi. There are many kinds of love. He might never love Devi with the passionate longing he has for Kaurwaki, but there is every reason to believe that over time, Ashoka, who already has high regard for Devi's qualities of head and heart, will develop a lot of affection, caring and respect for her. These are not to be despised.

Lastly, as I had noted earlier in the EDT, the way in which Devi is being pilloried all over for allegedly being servile, almost slavish in waiting hand and foot on Kaurwaki arouses all my protective instincts towards an underdog😉.

In defence of Devi, she is, to my mind, behaving not like a maid, but like one of the girl companions that princesses used to have in till the 19th century. Someone who is not a subordinate but a sakhi, and who cares for her royal friend so much that she wants every little thing to be perfect for her.

The other point is that Devi, being from the commercial class, would not see herself as equal to a princess like Kaurwaki. She must thus be feeling extra attached to her because Kaurwaki treats Devi not only with great kindness, but scrupulously as an equal.

Shyamala Aunty

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/136125784 (page 42)-

Posted: 06 August 2016 at 2:00am | IP Logged

You are absolutely right, my dear Suyash, and it is very perceptive of you. For once, you have not shied away from describing and analysing emotions with great sensitivity, instead of just wise-cracking. And no, your memory is not at fault at all.

But as for me, this was obvious to me for a long time. Right from when Devi gets up at all sorts of odd hours of the night to feed Ashoka and to try and shield him from Dharma's wrath. The vat savitri pooja bit,which you have noted so cleverly, was only a recent instance.

All this in return for the merest casual acknowledgement from his side. In Ujjaini, he treats her like an ever supportive sidekick, and it is only after they all come to Pataliputra that he starts valuing her qualities of head and heart far more, and tells her so when they are together in Kaurwaki's sick room. Of course this is mostly because she is so supportive of his relationship with Kaurwaki.

However, I would interpret Devi's overall behaviour in a slightly different fashion. I am not so sure that she herself knows how much she is in love with Ashoka. As distinct from loving him, which can be quite a different thing. That is why I wrote here some days back in my Pot pourri post:

I think Devi does care a lot for Ashoka - this was evident when he was still in her father's house - but she does not yet see him in romantic terms, not even when there was no Kaurwaki on the horizon. And now that her dear friend is in love with Ashoka, he has become paraya dhan, at least for the present!

I do not think Devi wants to acknowledge, even to herself, that she is in love with Ashoka. There a fine line between affectionate friendship and love, and it is exceedingly difficult to cross over from the former to the latter. One is afraid of non-reciprocation - and in this case, once Devi learns about Kaurwaki from Ashoka muttering in his sleep, is a given - and of losing even the friendship in the ensuing awkwardness.

Then, with with such unreciprocated love comes pain and suffering, which has to be hidden from prying eyes. There is the endless agony of being near the loved one without being able to give him even the slightest hint of what you really feel. In Devi's case, the double pain of having to watch him melt in love for another woman. As things are, she cannot even get away, which is the classic solution in such cases.

No sensible woman would want to be in this kind of hellish situation indefinitely. So Devi has, most likely unconsciously, built a firewall around her heart as far as her love for Ashoka is concerned. She has convinced herself that all she feels for him is not love, but the deepest, most affectionate kind of friendship.

There too, she would naturally want his happiness under any and all circumstances, but without any expectations for herself. So she can flit around promoting the love of Ashoka's life, without acknowledging, even to herself, what this really costs her. She does not consciously pretend to be the greatest supporter of Ashoka's love for Kaurwaki, she actually is that, in all sincerity. All this needs is a lot of emotional discipline, and Devi, who is as strong as they come, has enough of this and more.

So naturally she gets ready to fight for the love of her friends - her friendship for Kaurwaki is just as sincere as her love for Ashoka - against the jyotishi and against niyati itself, with the same ferocity with which she terrorised Anandini for having dared to try and ruin Kaurwaki's life.

More than being a conscious sacrifice, as you see it - and what can she sacrifice when she has nothing in her hands to give away but some of Ashoka's casual affection and regard for her? - it is the only possible self-defence mechanism that she has under the circumstances.

That she does not let on about the truth even to herself is clear from the fact that we have never been shown even a hint, in a private moment, that Devi is in love with Ashoka. There is not the slightest hint of longing in her eyes as she looks at him, or when she watches him with Kaurwaki. She is never shown daydreaming about him or fantasising about the two of them.


I would not, as you have done, make Devi out to be one of those cliched self-sacrificing females from the old Gemini films of the 1960s, where a younger sister gave up the love of her life to her elder sister who was also in love with him. She is something rarer and more admirable. And why compare her with Kaurwaki at all?

Devi is like a yogini who has successfully sublimated the deepest, hidden desire of her heart, and turned it into something that can be open, acceptable to all, and above all, not hurtful, in the first place for herself.

When she hugs Ashoka, it might be that it was the sole flare up of what lies hidden in her. But that is not a conscious action. It is involuntary, and Devi herself sees it as she describes it. It is far better so for her.

Devi's real trials will begin after after Kaurwaki has left the scene for the indefinite future, and she herself has somehow ended up marrying Ashoka. For then - in the continuous proximity of the wedded state with a man who is really not there at all for her in the way her heart demands, and will never be - things will become much tougher as her self-defence mechanism starts breaking down. My heart goes out to her, poor child.

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by BeingBlunt

Just watched the episode again i am 100% sure Devi loves ashok more than KVK. YES More than her, I have never ever seen KVK this aggressive and determined for ashok ever.

Please remind me if my memory is weak.

Here's my theory :

Devi loves ashok and wants him to be super happy and since she has heard KVK name from his she didn't tell him. In the meantime Nirankush captures Devi and dhaniram and ashok and KVK release them and devi starts loving him more and no matter what happens to her she can't see her ashok sad. Then she gets to know about KVK and gather the fact that this is the girl ashok loves and makes it her life's mission to reunite them because ashok is happy with KVK not her.

Scenes continue and she reaches PP with KVK as her best friend/assistant/dasi/love guru etc.

Since she already has the protection of dharma there is nothing to worry her and she with the help of vitt she tries everything possible to unite them. Some time after even dharma joins. When her mission is about to be completed, just for secure future and happiness of ashok she goes to the sadhu. Sadhu predicts bad future and she loses her mind, she cant let all her hard work get wasted. She will do absolutely anything for Ash...waki union because that's where ashok's happiness lies.

Its always been ashok for her. I might be going too far but if you look at old scenes she has always been centered on ashoka.

There always have been small small indications about devi's liking for ashok but the first big indication was that vat savitri puja. Devu could have only instructed KVK and it would have worked but she didn't . She did the pooja perfectly and also made sure KVK followed the correct method to be double sure that there is not problem. Next indication was the tighter than tight hug which didn't looked friendly at all and she wanted to live this moment as much as possible because she has to leave ashok anyway. And the final nail in the coffin was yesterday's aggression. No one does so much their BFF . She did this for her ashok.

This is what is true love and sacrifice and not what what CVs are showing. Pushing your friend to do suicide is not true love, its being obsessive.

Damn i didnt knew i could write so much. I didn't know how i wrote this much but i saw the episode and read a post on forum and started writing and continued with the flow.