Padman challenge? Are you okay with it? - Page 9

Originally posted by: return_to_hades

Because it is important to educate men as well. Women and men coexist. Men have to play their role to support women and not embarrass them.

If someone interrupts a meeting to say "Hey, I cut myself, do we have a band-aid around?" people are helpful. They will provide first aid supplies and help. If someone feels sick or throws up, they people will offer to buy medicine or drive them to the doctor.

But if a woman has an untimely period and has no supplies, she has to obtain a pad or tampon like a ninja warrior. She has to quietly find another woman who can help without anyone else noticing what is going on. It is especially worse working in a male-dominated office. Talk of periods and men turn red with embarrassment. Many will actively groan. Some even have the audacity to scream TMI or claim to be uncomfortable.

We need to establish a world where a woman can stand up and say "Hey, I got my period early. Does anyone have tampons? and people don't flinch. We need to establish a world where a woman can hand a tampon to another woman and its the same as handing a band-aid or migrainepill. We need to establish a world where if there are no women around men nonchalantly volunteer to make a quick grocery run. We need to establish a world where women do not have to act like secret ninjas to hide the fact that they bleed. And men play a huge role in that.

If you have a problem with selective promotions for the sake of films, then I can see your point and agree to a certain extent.

But if you have a problem with society becoming open about menstruation and involving men in the discussion, I will fight you.

That last part? That worries me considering most likely demography in this forum is educated upper middle class & western oriented.. and still we get this attitude of fostering age old taboos
and honestly I'm rolling my eyes at the worry of wasting pads en masse! Its ludicrous when that pad was not going to charity to begin with! More like would have funded a coffee instead!!
Maybe some consolation for the people worrying too much - in a pack of 12 one would be for the picture and maybe they did take the left over 11 Home to a woman in their family who would have gotten ZERO pads anyway from the boy who is holding the single one up had it not been for this talk being up and around?

Originally posted by: return_to_hades

Because it is important to educate men as well. Women and men coexist. Men have to play their role to support women and not embarrass them.

If someone interrupts a meeting to say "Hey, I cut myself, do we have a band-aid around?" people are helpful. They will provide first aid supplies and help. If someone feels sick or throws up, they people will offer to buy medicine or drive them to the doctor.

But if a woman has an untimely period and has no supplies, she has to obtain a pad or tampon like a ninja warrior. She has to quietly find another woman who can help without anyone else noticing what is going on. It is especially worse working in a male-dominated office. Talk of periods and men turn red with embarrassment. Many will actively groan. Some even have the audacity to scream TMI or claim to be uncomfortable.

We need to establish a world where a woman can stand up and say "Hey, I got my period early. Does anyone have tampons? and people don't flinch. We need to establish a world where a woman can hand a tampon to another woman and its the same as handing a band-aid or migraine pill. We need to establish a world where if there are no women around men nonchalantly volunteer to make a quick grocery run. We need to establish a world where women do not have to act like secret ninjas to hide the fact that they bleed. And men play a huge role in that.

If you have a problem with selective promotions for the sake of films, then I can see your point and agree to a certain extent.

But if you have a problem with society becoming open about menstruation and involving men in the discussion, I will fight you.

i wanted to ask one thing. Whats the problem if a guy doesnt know about girl having periods at the particular moment in office. i mean you feel it will be nice if guys sit and discuss periods..???...or we want that guys should know so they can pity us and can be like...ohhh she is on periods, i should handle her mood swings or shouldnt give her more work in an office circumstance? ... do we reallly need a guy to help us in this...especially in this manner...arent we strong enough ?.Women from ages have been working like this...and we today talk about equality and then we ourselves create situations where people should sympathesize with us because we undergo a natural phenomenon every month...i am also a girl and i dont wany anyone to do that to me...i feel i am as strong as guys are and i really dont need their support in this...Its my thing, my body ...i dont want people to sympathesize ...why i am mentioning this because only that guys can do...periods come on some particular dates and we girls can always keep pads with us...it weights very less and i am sure if we actually end up in a situation where only a men was there to help ...then he will definitey help even today...its not like people arent aware...its just it is considered as girls thing and thus boys dont discuss it openly and it should be like that only in my openion...and a girl ofcourse will ask for pad from a girl only in office...ab guys kitne bhi aware ho jaaye...i am doubtful they will carry a pad with a thought that one of my friend/collegue might need it. ...we keep things which are useful to us...bandage or vomitting medicines are a different thing...that are for both gender and thus can be asked from both...we need an environment where a girl can ask for a pad from boy seems illogical to me.

^^@surbhi - what if I'm home and having my period and forgot to pick pads during the last shopping round and want dad to quickly go and pick it from the supermarket for me? What if mom isn't home and u r cramping bad and u want ur father to get you a painkiller, hot water bottle and just simply give u a back rub? That was a 15 year old me and I'm happy to say my dad more than lived up to it. And that's why I believe this shouldn't be a taboo so that family members can be open about this to each other! Not necessarily to advertise to outsiders that I'm having my period.

Originally posted by: princessunara

That last part? That worries me considering most likely demography in this forum is educated upper middle class & western oriented.. and still we get this attitude of fostering age old taboos
and honestly I'm rolling my eyes at the worry of wasting pads en masse! Its ludicrous when that pad was not going to charity to begin with! More like would have funded a coffee instead!!
Maybe some consolation for the people worrying too much - in a pack of 12 one would be for the picture and maybe they did take the left over 11 Home to a woman in their family who would have gotten ZERO pads anyway from the boy who is holding the single one up had it not been for this talk being up and around?

i dont feel this forum is just filled with western oriented people sunara. Its not like its western oriented thinking which is right only. And i dont feel the situation of upper middle class is like that fathers and brothers need these selfies to realize they need to buy their wifes and daughters pads. They are doing that from ages...they just dont talk about it. Bring me a girl on the forum whose brother will say no if she asks him to buy a packet of pads. No one will say no sunara...its a very normal thing and all educated male do understand already. Regarding people thinking about the number of pads wasted...i belong to a country where 70 percent females dont have access to pads because they are too costly and are available in less number in India. Their brothers are willing to buy but they dont have money to buy. If a doctor sees getting them wasted like this...let me inform you dear...more than 100 of pads will waste like this...even more...her worry is genuine. And the thing is we are actually bot getting anything out of it...we are educating the people who are already educated about it. And if this was for rural india, then this isnt the right platform as rural people dont have insta ids to check these posts. Stage events in those areas would have been more helpful.

Originally posted by: princessunara

^^@surbhi - what if I'm home and having my period and forgot to pick pads during the last shopping round and want dad to quickly go and pick it from the supermarket for me? What if mom isn't home and u r cramping bad and u want ur father to get you a painkiller, hot water bottle and just simply give u a back rub? That was a 15 year old me and I'm happy to say my dad more than lived up to it. And that's why I believe this shouldn't be a taboo so that family members can be open about this to each other! Not necessarily to advertise to outsiders that I'm having my period.

Yes exactly sunara... your brother and father did that without these selfies and so did mine ...they still do...infact mostly its my dad only who brings my pack...and he is never embarassed to do that...the guy who sells them at medicine shop is also a guy and he is not embarassed to do that either. People dont talk so openly about it doesnt means they are unaware of things...we are educated ones here...i dont believe there are families where father and brother dont know that sister and mothers have periods and will refuse to help them when needed due to embarassment. Its not like that...in rural also...its more because of monetary issues and a part of country isnt educated enough but then the platform they are using isnt right to adress that set of audience.

Originally posted by: EtherealRati

Yes exactly sunara... your brother and father did that without these selfies and so did mine ...they still do...infact mostly its my dad only who brings my pack...and he is never embarassed to do that...the guy who sells them at medicine shop is also a guy and he is not embarassed to do that either. People dont talk so openly doesnt means they are unaware of things...we are educated ones here...i dont believe there are families where father and brother dont know that sister and mothers have periods and will refuse to help them when needes due to embarassment. Its not like that...in rural also...its more because of monetary issues and a part if country isnt educated but then the platform they are using isnt right to adress that set of audience.

Hi!! How r u doing? Seen you after ages :)

Anyway getting back to the point, we had a natural disaster sometime last year and when relief efforts were on one major thing that they lacked was sanitary pads and that's because people didn't think that it was as important as a pack of paracetamol. Our Asian cultures don't even remember it's needed as it's hidden in age old taboos
I also shared a story of my own personal experience of how a different area of my own country (that isn't the capital province which I come from) treated pads. And the girl I talked about was a 24yr old working for one of our State banks. That's solid middle class. But taboo it was for her. And she had the latest android smartphone, was on WA, Viber and Facebook, took selfies and tagged people on social media. Your basic millennial.
All I'm saying is I got a reality check. My reality was same as yours till I experienced the other side of it for myself. These people who has access to the same social media platforms as us but thinks it's a taboo will see it and just maybe some of them will stop thinking it as a shame. It isn't just uneducated and none tech savvy people who think differently.

I'm not saying this is enough. But awareness and removal of ancient taboos is the first step while contribution to make is more accessible monetary wise is the next. Maybe it might make someone give away packs of pads outside a temple as alms for the poor one fine day just liek they give clothes to the poor? An MNC might along with soft drinks give pads to a poor girls school? These things just may happen as next steps if it becomes ok for them to be in the open. Which I believe these initiatives will help make them be

Okay one more thing was in my mind ...i will like to put it down...what this alll will lead too...sooo we are busy educating men of the society that girls undergo periods which they already know ...but we will gooo in detailll...slowly and gradually...like we have pain while going through them...and then girls willl openly declare that they have periods by asking for pads and all in office in front of everyone...and it will ofcourse become easy for many girls who want leaves to take them in thosr days...and guys will be like ...oh she is suffering...then we will keep encouraging this...india needs to bhi aware phalana dhimkana...finally the upper management of many companies will decide that lets give girls off on the days when they have periods. And equality of gender will go in the well...thats what happens. All this will just create unnecessary sympathy for women in mens heart which atleast i as a women dont want. I am serious when i talk about equality and i am strong enough to face periods without any tantrums and i am not some big shot...ladies have been doing this since ages. Womennn doesnt need sympathy from anyone. I believe in gender equality. Moreover the movie itself is not about how to make already educated man aware of this phenomenon...its about a man who made pads utilizing less money just to help those females who cant afford it. And i believe thats what this campaign should have been about too...but that required more money and a deeper thought. And noone wants to do that...its just about a film promotion here.

Originally posted by: EtherealRati

i wanted to ask one thing. Whats the problem if a guy doesnt know about girl having periods at the particular moment in office.

Originally posted by: princessunara

^^@surbhi - what if I'm home and having my period and forgot to pick pads during the last shopping round and want dad to quickly go and pick it from the supermarket for me? What if mom isn't home and u r cramping bad and u want ur father to get you a painkiller, hot water bottle and just simply give u a back rub? That was a 15 year old me and I'm happy to say my dad more than lived up to it. And that's why I believe this shouldn't be a taboo so that family members can be open about this to each other! Not necessarily to advertise to outsiders that I'm having my period.

Originally posted by: princessunara

Hi!! How r u doing? Seen you after ages :)

Anyway getting back to the point, we had a natural disaster sometime last year and when relief efforts were on one major thing that they lacked was sanitary pads and that's because people didn't think that it was as important as a pack of paracetamol. Our Asian cultures don't even remember it's needed as it's hidden in age old taboos
I also shared a story of my own personal experience of how a different area of my own country (that isn't the capital province which I come from) treated pads. And the girl I talked about was a 24yr old working for one of our State banks. That's solid middle class. But taboo it was for her. And she had the latest android smartphone, was on WA, Viber and Facebook, took selfies and tagged people on social media. Your basic millennial.
All I'm saying is I got a reality check. My reality was same as yours till I experienced the other side of it for myself. These people who has access to the same social media platforms as us but thinks it's a taboo will see it and just maybe some of them will stop thinking it as a shame. It isn't just uneducated and none tech savvy people who think differently.

I'm not saying this is enough. But awareness and removal of ancient taboos is the first step while contribution to make is more accessible monetary wise is the next. Maybe it might make someone give away packs of pads outside a temple as alms for the poor one fine day just liek they give clothes to the poor? An MNC might along with soft drinks give pads to a poor girls school? These things just may happen as next steps if it becomes ok for them to be in the open. Which I believe these initiatives will help make them be

ya...i am less active and hardly active on this forum.Nice to see you here. Okay i understand your point of view. But sadly this can go other way out too as i pointed in the previous post. Getting pads in relief funds...may be no women was involved there. I get in such a circumstance if a man was aware as in talked about it usually...toh shayad he would have remembered. But isnt it a rare circumstance. Sunara i dont feel if pad is given in a black packet...its wrong...i mean why should everyone know that we are having periods ...arent medicines also provided in brown papers ...as things like this doesnt need to be disclosed. The women waiting for others to go to buy the pad is not something i have witnessed...so may be if i had...my openions would have been different...i dint get why she waited. Waise wasnt the shopkeeper man himself ?...OKay sooo there are people who find periods a taboo even after having access to everything we have. Then thats a sad scenario...i havent witnessed this ...so basically you feel these selfie will pads will ensure those girls can take the pad with confidance and will not feel embarassed. Okay thats a good thing then but if it all reciprocately put women in a sympathetic situation instead then. You know when people start these campaigns they are like respect women...i understand women...want to support her. I sometime feel that the whole support thing actually make us weaker instead of empowering us. That women did get that pad...even if she was embarassed to buy it ...the need was fulfilled...i willl not be able to handle offices giving girls leave on those days ...and i just hope it doesnt goes this sympathetic way. A same kind of thing happened before if i am not wrong.