Jiah Khan not murdered, committed suicide says CBI - Page 3

Originally posted by: Aweeecute

even if he was because he was the jerk boyfriend
can we blame him for her suicide
i mean it was still a suicide
she killed her self
you cant blame others

its really tough to establish cause. Thats why most people anyways go scot free. But say a husband beats his wife every day and finally she commits suicide. so he IS responsible.

The problem is further complicated by the fact that here there is primarily mental torture rather than the more easily understood physical violence.

Most people will say - why did she have to kill herself. she should have just left him. But we are speaking here from a point of mentally strong and emotionally stable person. You cannot imagine the fragile and weak state of a person who is actually living through that mental abuse. The abuser is then responsible but will 99.99% get away free because it it so tough to prove it.

^^ Completely agree with this!! You seem to think like a lawyer.

He's very responsible, but since it's very difficult to establish/throw onus, he will go scot-free too but there is no doubt in my mind he's completely responsible. If you're brought up in the atmosphere like Pancholi was & has a totally vile, philandering, misogynist & MCP like Aditya as his father, can't expect any better. Would've been a shock if he turned out anything better. He's pathetic & gives me the creeps.


Only master-criminals like Salman support & help such men in going scot-free, Mentor & protege, indeed. 😡

Just suicide? Weren't there where reports of him manhandling her and trying to abort her baby much before proper medical intervention? Isnt that a crime or that allegation has been proven false?

Originally posted by: bips

its really tough to establish cause. Thats why most people anyways go scot free. But say a husband beats his wife every day and finally she commits suicide. so he IS responsible.

The problem is further complicated by the fact that here there is primarily mental torture rather than the more easily understood physical violence.

Most people will say - why did she have to kill herself. she should have just left him. But we are speaking here from a point of mentally strong and emotionally stable person. You cannot imagine the fragile and weak state of a person who is actually living through that mental abuse. The abuser is then responsible but will 99.99% get away free because it it so tough to prove it.

agree with you
but in this case from the letters it seemed like he wanted to move out but she still wanted to be with him
he cheated and was ignoring her but she still wanted to be with him
so i dont know in this case we can blame the partner
its a debatable issue
ya agree with wife beating
because in the most of the cases in desi society
they dont have family support if they want to get divorce or file complain
but this was not the situation here

Originally posted by: Mallika-E-Bhais

^^ Completely agree with this!! You seem to think like a lawyer.

He's very responsible, but since it's very difficult to establish/throw onus, he will go scot-free too but there is no doubt in my mind he's completely responsible. If you're brought up in the atmosphere like Pancholi was & has a totally vile, philandering, misogynist & MCP like Aditya as his father, can't expect any better. Would've been a shock if he turned out anything better. He's pathetic & gives me the creeps.


Only master-criminals like Salman support & help such men in going scot-free, Mentor & protege, indeed. 😡

but the thing is no one knows why she commited suicide
because what if she commited because of no work
that can we the reason too
or maybe its because of sooraj
but in these kind of situation its innocent until proven guilty .

Originally posted by: Aweeecute

agree with you
but in this case from the letters it seemed like he wanted to move out but she still wanted to be with him
he cheated and was ignoring her but she still wanted to be with him
so i dont know in this case we can blame the partner
its a debatable issue
ya agree with wife beating
because in the most of the cases in desi society
they dont have family support if they want to get divorce or file complain
but this was not the situation here

Totally agree - it is very debatable.

From what i have seen of abusive relationships - most of them work on a 'carrot and stick' approach.

You first shower the person with attention
then you isolate her/him from all their friends and family
you even disturb their work life
basically your aim is to have the person's life completely centred around you
you then basically treat the person like crap
sometimes with fear, sometimes with love, your aim is to control their life
and whenever you don't get your way, you threaten to leave them till they agree to anything you say
you destroy someone's confidence, their sense of worth, their ability to trust or confide in anyone

... plus in this case, is the added charges of forcing her to abort, not letting her seek medical help and what not ...

I'll say it again. Abuse is very difficult to understand if you have not gone through it. Most people will just say- Why don't you walk away you idiot. But its not that simple.

It happened to my cousin sister. We had to literally drag her out of her sasural where she was getting beaten up. And she would fight with us to actually go back to that hellhole! Even physical abuse messes you up mentally more than actual injuries. So people who treat others like this need to go to jail.

We ask - why did the victim have to kill herself? Its her fault

The real question should be - Why did HE treat another person in such a despicable manner. There should be some basic standards for human decency that everyone should adhere to. And when you don't you should be punished. its his fault.

There is enough to prove that he treated her like crap but honestly i doubt it will have any effect. nothing is going to happen to him



PS: Sorry for the ranting essay. i got carried away. I just feel very strongly about abuse.

^^ I've been through an extremely similar situation & I completely agree with you. Abuse breaks you on every level. Now that I look back, I think & everyone else tells me I was behaving like I was INSANE. Which I probably was. These are exactly the pointers that occur in most abusive relationships. It's deathly scary & absolutely nothing to joke about. It kills you & that fear always remains. Always.

Originally posted by: bips

Totally agree - it is very debatable.

From what i have seen of abusive relationships - most of them work on a 'carrot and stick' approach.

You first shower the person with attention
then you isolate her/him from all their friends and family
you even disturb their work life
basically your aim is to have the person's life completely centred around you
you then basically treat the person like crap
sometimes with fear, sometimes with love, your aim is to control their life
and whenever you don't get your way, you threaten to leave them till they agree to anything you say
you destroy someone's confidence, their sense of worth, their ability to trust or confide in anyone

... plus in this case, is the added charges of forcing her to abort, not letting her seek medical help and what not ...

I'll say it again. Abuse is very difficult to understand if you have not gone through it. Most people will just say- Why don't you walk away you idiot. But its not that simple.

It happened to my cousin sister. We had to literally drag her out of her sasural where she was getting beaten up. And she would fight with us to actually go back to that hellhole! Even physical abuse messes you up mentally more than actual injuries. So people who treat others like this need to go to jail.

We ask - why did the victim have to kill herself? Its her fault

The real question should be - Why did HE treat another person in such a despicable manner. There should be some basic standards for human decency that everyone should adhere to. And when you don't you should be punished. its his fault.

There is enough to prove that he treated her like crap but honestly i doubt it will have any effect. nothing is going to happen to him



PS: Sorry for the ranting essay. i got carried away. I just feel very strongly about abuse.

agree with you
with with that abortion thing
its not proved yet
if all the abortion and all other things are true and gets proved
i think he is very responsible
but if not
than i dont blame him
ya agree
even i have seen few girls in abusing relationship
and they just dont want to leave them
dont know why

Originally posted by: Mallika-E-Bhais

^^ I've been through an extremely similar situation & I completely agree with you. Abuse breaks you on every level. Now that I look back, I think & everyone else tells me I was behaving like I was INSANE. Which I probably was. These are exactly the pointers that occur in most abusive relationships. It's deathly scary & absolutely nothing to joke about. It kills you & that fear always remains. Always.

omg! you went through it? Thats so scary and sad. I'm so glad that you are ok now. Lots of good wishes and a happy future to you. sending good karma your way. And hope that asshole rots in hell. Stay strong girl.

Abortion can lead to suicidal thoughts. Wasn't there reports on how Suraj manhandled her and tried to abort the baby with his bare hands!

If these are true, it is his fault.