Shenaz Treasury's open letter to NaMo, SRK, Salman, Aamir, Big B - Page 6

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Posted: 11 years ago
#51

Originally posted by: abhishah

I almost wish that Shenaz addressed her letter to only our PM. Instead of starting the clean India campaign, focus on the laws that will promote a better society. What good is a "clean country" when the country men and women can't feel safe living in it?!


Exactly...I don't know what is the point of a Shining India...and all those speeches in NYC and all over the world when the basic rights of women are not granted to them in India...
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Posted: 11 years ago
#52

Originally posted by: return_to_hades


Sexual pleasure is different from intimacy. You can gain physical gratification without love. Masturbation, po*nography, erotic literature, strip clubs, prostitution, one night stands, hookup apps and sites are all varying means of humans to get sexual pleasure without love. The only difference most people understand the importance of consent. The problem with eve teasing and harassment in India is that many men don't understand the concept of consent. There are various reasons for it - sexual repression not allowing healthy sexual expression, lack of proper gender socialization, patriarchal view that women are property and created for male pleasure, the need to be dominant and in control and sometimes pure psychopathic and sociopathic tendencies.


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Posted: 11 years ago
#53
I might sound explicit but there can be no sexual pleasure(definitely) for an ordinary man unless it is mutual act of love..I simply can't get rapist's mindset at all..Or may b , they don't believe in love , view women as just sex object and above all , hardwired (genes??) to go convulsive as and when occasion arise..
Btw anybody know the stats/average of rape incidents in Western society and Saudi Arab/Gulf Arab ??
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No matter what the rape rate in saudi is..i can ASSURE u..it is WAY less than India...ppl can criticize the shariah law as MUCH as they want..but one thing is for sure...it sure does give deserving punishments to the bas***ds who deserve it! Women dnt need to walk around with a bag infrnt of them bcuz the sick bas***ds KNOW whtll happen to them...

In the west its all about where u choose to take a walk and at wht time...nobdy will DARE touch u or grope u in the middle of the day in a market like she said or put a hand in a girls tshirt in a FRKKIN BUS! But then again its not completely safe to walk by urself in the middle of the night or deserted neighbourhoods ANYWHERE in this world..


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Posted: 11 years ago
#54

Originally posted by: blue-ice


Exactly...I don't know what is the point of a Shining India...and all those speeches in NYC and all over the world when the basic rights of women are not granted to them in India...


It is just HYPOCRISY!! Third world countries can NEVER actually change when instead of being delusional...saying "I love my India/Pakistan" and jumping down the throats of ANYBDY who even dares to point out a flaw...u actually ACCEPT that it is a flaw and we need to change it...

and lets not forget...Bollywood movies...they FEED to the disgusting mindset of such ppl! The way women dress is out of question here bcuz that is her choice and men have NO right to object it or claim tht to be the reason of their actions...but wht abt the dialogues or the camera angels these ppl use to SELL ENTERTAINMENT!! IF THIS IS THE IDEA OR CONCEPT OF ENTERTAINMENT OF COURSE MEN ARE GOING TO USE THE SAME TACTICS TO "ENTERTAIN" THEMSELVES!!! I swear women should put knives in their handbags...what good is a pepper spray...

and wht is amitabh gonna do...go tweet about it...ya THAT is gonna help...90% of these bas***ds dnt even read twitter...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I hope the motherland constitution comes with stricter laws for this offenders. I feel for her & every girl & woman who had to go through this.We are suppose to be the country of culture where women are consider as goddesses then why are these men acting like beasts. 😡
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I can totally relate to her with respect to groping in public,eve teasing, stalking,molestation etc cos its a FACT that every single girl/woman in India has gone through it in some form or another.

She is right about stricter laws. Its high time the root cause of such unfortunate events are dealt with, as a top priority. That is punishing the culprit with harsh and unforgiving manner. I see no scope in rehabilitation of convicted rapists. Instead of tackling and punishing the real culprit, most of the time in India the blame is put on the peripheral factors which in someway is related to the said rape. How does a victim's attire, the time they were out at, the means of transport they were taking when the rape took place,the company to which the taxi belongs to etc be blamed more than the perpetrator?


I think the society has to change and not tell a girl who is abused to stay quiet for the sake of family honor or the bad name it might bring to the school/college/company they go to. In an idealistic situation,the law has to protect the victim and punish the culprit as soon as possible. But that doesn't always happen. But I think its time for some almost barbaric laws to be introduced so that the men have some fear and think twice before assaulting a person. Just thinking about an adult raping a innocent 3 yr old makes my blood boil. If the laws don't get severe for these kind of psychotic rapists,then there is no hope left for humanity and the society we live in.


In time I think violence will just beget more violence. I read an article about a Women Vigilante group which is taking law in their hand and punishing all the psychos abusing women. Though I applaud them, its also a violent retaliation and am conflicted about that approach too.


Edited by .Elixir. - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Here the article I was talking about.


Young women from the Red Brigade
Young women from the Red Brigade walk through the Midiyav slum in the city of Lucknow. Their leader, Usha Vishwakarma, 25, is in white. Photograph: Gethin Chamberlain for the Observer



The male tormentor of the young women of the Madiyav slum did not spot the danger until it was too late. One moment he was taunting them with sexual suggestions and provocations; the next they had hold of his arms and legs and had hoisted him into the air.

Then the beating began. Some of the young women lightly used their fists, others took off their shoes and hit him with those. When it was over, they let him limp away to nurse his wounds, certain that he had learned an important lesson: don't push your luck with the Red Brigade.

Named for their bright red outfits, the Red Brigade was formed in November 2011 as a self-defence group for young women suffering sexual abuse in the northern Indian city of Lucknow, 300 miles south-east of Delhi. Galvanised by the gang rape and murder of a 23-year-old medical student in Delhi last December and the nationwide protests that followed against a rising tide of rapes, they are now gaining in confidence.

From a core membership of 15, ranging in age from 11 to 25, they now have more than 100 members, intelligent and sassy and with a simple message for the men who have made their lives a misery: they will no longer tolerate being groped, gawped at and worse. Their activities are a lesson in empowerment.

Men who fall foul of the Red Brigade can first expect a visit and a warning. Sometimes the Red Brigade will ask the police to get involved, but if all else fails they take matters into their own hands. Their leader, 25-year-old teacher Usha Vishwakarma, has her own experience of the daily danger faced by many young women in the country. She was just 18 when a fellow teacher tried to rape her. "He grabbed me and put his hands round me and tried to open my belt and trousers," says Usha, sitting in the bare-brick front room of her small house. "But I was saved by my jeans because they were too tight for him to open, and that gave me a chance to fight, so I kicked him in the sensitive place and pushed him down and ran out of the door."

No one at the school took her accusations seriously, telling her to forget it and stop causing trouble. The experience left her traumatised and for two years she did nothing. But little by little her confidence came back. In 2009 she set up her own small school for local girls in an outbuilding next to her family home. Yet all around her, she says, she saw more and more young women suffering the same abuse she had faced. And it was threatening to wreck the chances of her young female students.

"Parents were telling girls to stay in their homes so there would be no incidents. They said, 'if you go to school, boys will be troubling you, so stay home and there will be no sexual violence'," says Vishwakarma. "But we said no, and we decided to form a group to fight for ourselves. We decided we would not just complain; we would take a lead and fight for ourselves." They bought red kameez (shirts) and black salwar(trousers) and began to plan the fightback. "We chose red because it means danger and black for protest," says Vishwakarma.

There is much to fight back against. "It is in the minds of men that girls are objects and it has been like that always," says Vishwakarma. "Religion shows women as very powerless and that whoever is strong can do anything."

Other members of the group drift in and join her, sitting on the bed along one wall of the front room. At the other end of the room is a table laden with the placards they carry with them when they go out to protest on the 29th day of every month. The demonstrations mark the date of the Delhi bus rape and murder on 29 December. Their slogans read: "Stop rape now" and "We want safety".

"In the electronic era there are pictures everywhere of women and girls being treated like objects. It is now very simple to see po*nography and it is feeding the hunger for sex. The men think that if you are looking sexy, then you want sex," says Vishwakarma.

They have started martial arts training so that the men do not have a physical advantage over them. Pooja, Vishwakarma's 18-year-old sister, laughs as she recalls the reaction of the boy they grabbed in the street when his taunts became too much. "We all stopped and turned round and we surrounded him and grabbed his arms and legs and he thought it was a joke, but we were not kidding and four of us lifted him in the air and the others started to hit him with their shoes and fists," she says.

The rough justice the Red Brigade metes out might seem extreme to western sensibilities, but many Indian women are making it clear that they are no longer prepared to put up with endemic abuse. That much is clear from the crime figures: reports of molestation in Delhi are up 590% year on year and rape reports by 147%. The rape cases have hit tourist numbers, which were down 25% in the first three months of the year - 35% fewer women are travelling to India.

The Red Brigade say sexual abuse is a part of daily life for young women like them. They all have stories of abuse, attempted rapes and daily harassment. "This is what happens in India," says 16-year-old Laxmi, one of Vishwakarma's lieutenants. "These things happen all the time. All of us know this, so don't let anyone say otherwise. This is why we have formed the Red Brigade."

Seventeen-year-old Preeti Verma nods in agreement. Her family are too poor to have a toilet in the house, so she has to go out into the fields, she says. Every time she went out, the man in the neighbouring house threw stones at her to try to scare her into jumping up. "He wanted to see my body," she says. "I told him: 'What are you doing? You are shameless, don't you have a mother and sister in your house?' But he replied that his mother is for his father, his sister is for her husband and that I was for him." She told Vishwakarma, and the man received a visit from the Red Brigade and another from the police. She has had no trouble from him since.

"We've caught a lot of men recently," says 17-year-old Sufia Hashmi. "I joined up because men always used to pass comments on me and touch my body, but now we beat them the men cannot do anything and they run away. You feel powerful and you feel good."

The next day, they gather on the roof of a gym across the city to run through their moves, a mixture of kicks, punches and throws. An instructor shows Pooja how to use a wooden stick to keep a boy at bay. She holds it against his assistant's throat and the boy looks terrified. The others gasp and giggle.

Yet it is not just the young men of the neighbourhood that the Red Brigade must overcome. Many of the members are very young and, although some of their parents are supportive, others are convinced they are wasting their lives. "The attitude of my parents is very demoralising," says 16-year-old Simpi Diwari, a tiny young woman who a few moments ago was kicking away the legs of one of her colleagues. "I want to be like Usha, fighting against the cruel things, I want to be a teacher and a motivator too, but I am fighting with my parents just to be allowed out of the house."

On the way back to the slum, the rickshaws pass a public park and for a moment these tough young women show themselves for what they really are - children forced to grow up fast. They beg and plead to stop. "Please, please," they say, their eyes gleaming in excitement. Shrieking gleefully, they race off towards the swings, slides and roundabouts. Later they stroll back through the market, eating ice-creams, heading for their homes. The sun is low in the sky, the shadows long. The men watch sullenly as they pass, like wolves who have just discovered the sheep are armed. No one risks a word.


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Edited by .Elixir. - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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It's such an emotional letter! I hope the stars she has addressed do respond.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#59

Originally posted by: JungFrau

Impressed but why now when her movie is releasing?


Why ignore the issue at hand simply because her film is releasing?
In any case, even if publicity was one of the factors that motivated her to write this letter, surely it's better to raise issues like these than plant fake link-up stories in papers.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Well said Shehnaz. Every girl in India has gone through this. Hope PM responds to this letter.

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