Dear Salman, I love you....but can you take it a bit easy Sir? - Page 5

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Carrie-

But did you know, Cruiser, there is a huge fan following of Bigg Boss that only watches the show to enjoy the grilling of certain characters they have come to despise? They wait for the weekend episodes just so that Salman Bhai will wow them with so-called biased bashing of a few contestants who also happen to be the movers and shakers of the show. One reason why such a concept is immensely popular is because it gives viewers access to risky' or antisocial behaviours without actually having to bear any of the consequences themselves. By watching the back stabbing and the snarky comments, one gets the thrill without having to actually engage in that behaviour ourselves and therefore one isn't actually exposed to any potentially awkward or challenging social situations.

But another major reason for the popularity is also because of the host-contestants dynamics. For the flak Mr Khan receives for his brand of hosting I'm certain that won't be the reason for his removal from his job. The day he decides to be "neutral" "non-judgemental"& "non-interfering" is the day when we will sadly lose the charm , thrill & fun that we have come to associate with Bigg Boss and needless to say as result the charismatic persona that keeps it all together...Salman Khan. Who would want to watch a sagely nodding, distant and "flower pot" master of ceremonies weekend after weekend? Its because Mr Khan had decided to roll up his sleeves & get his hand dirty with so much involvement in the show that you & I still meet & greet on this forum so many years later on.

The consistent weekends grilling reminds me of an experiment I had heard of some time ago with the housemates playing the role of "prisoners" and viewers in the role of "wardens" or "guards". With the mighty Salman Khan being the Chief of Prison Staff. I am pretty certain that he is not only used to create uncharacteristic behaviour in the housemates but also to satisfy some sort of basal need for vengeance in the public watching it.

Along with the tasks, twists, rewards and punishments, the "grilling" too is all designed to elicit prisoner and guard type behaviour so the viewer will judge and try to control "bad" people and support and reward "good" people. Since the viewers are restricted in taking part in the punishment by merely voting to throw out the "bad" lot one at the time which may take time or may not happen at all, the host has become the medium for instant, swift retribution. At the end of the session it makes them feel so much better that all is well with their world.

Some contestants may remind the viewers of people they have an axe to grind with and have not been able "settle scores".😛 It's with immense pleasure they watch Mr Khan grandly play the Judge, Jury & Executioner and do it for them.😆

As for yesterday's episode I wouldn't say that Kishwer was bashed. She was mostly answering to Rochelle's charges. Salman merely asked her to explain herself for some of the comments she made. Suyash was completely ignored. I feel Salman takes a personal interest in Prince's journey and hence felt the need to give him some sound advice.

Apologies for the long essay. Blame it on a week long house arrest due to continuous rain storms.😆



What a brilliant articulation of an alternative point of view this is. Haven't I told you before that you should dabble in professional writing?👏

See, over the years one can see viewers get divided over Salman's hosting. More than the alleged bias of Salman Khan, it actually is a reflection or rather admission of viewers that we like certain contestant /s more than the other /s and you are biased when you grill my / our favourites! Thats why I said over the years Salman has done a fabulous job and one can't imagine a better host for this show than him.

The very fact that none of his alleged-supposed favourites, Ellie, Mahek Chahal, Tanisha-Armaan, (Was it Puneet Issar last season??), ever won the show, in itself proves the point that he may like some a bit more than others, but it has no bearing on the outcome!

On the contrary, it even seemed he in a way helped propel and progress, the ones he grilled. Best example Gauhar Khan!

IN UK's Big Brother, the host intervention is non existent! Contestants are allowed to go bust or boom, depending on their own mental strengths and reactions to situations. In the Indian version, the Host becomes one more dimension of challenges thrown at house inmates by BB team. As an idea, it is fine and even exciting!

Problem is if BB team decides to use Salman as yet another dimension of increasing mental stress levels of BB House inmates, then they need to be extremely professional and near perfect in ensuring that it doesn't result in unintended results! How would the BB team respond for example, if today onwards Kiyash, Prince, Suyyash and Puneet enter their blankets and just refuse to be part of any task?

In yesterday's episode Salman Khan repeatedly asked loaded questions to Rimi about conduct of Prince, Suyyash, Kishwar and surprisingly, Rimi stuck to her guns and defended them! One can easily imagine how hard the effort would have been in the total, unedited shots.

As I said before I have no issue at all with biases and personal liking. Its human nature to like one more than other and Salman is only Being Human, in the end! 😆 But then when he thunders,"Ye meri favourite nahin hain"------and at the same time has no issue with Mandana tinkering with Kishwar's clothes and in same breath blasts Prince with a ,"Tumko kaisa lagta agar koi tumhari Behan ke suitcase ko haath lagaata?", then it clearly is a case of BB team not doing a very good job here and whatever they are relaying to Salman in the concealed earphone n his left ear, is more of a reflection of bad job back end! 😛

Its disturbing that someone like Puneet, who had the potential to be a rocker on this show, has been transformed into a Rimi Sen minus her interesting expressions within no time because of host bombardment!😆

Personally, I have always accepted Salman Khan as 'yet another dimension in game to test the inmates' and so simply applaud you for putting it so wonderfully here as:


""""The consistent weekends grilling reminds me of an experiment I had heard of some time ago with the housemates playing the role of "prisoners" and viewers in the role of "wardens" or "guards". With the mighty Salman Khan being the Chief of Prison Staff. I am pretty certain that he is not only used to create uncharacteristic behaviour in the housemates but also to satisfy some sort of basal need for vengeance in the public watching it.

Along with the tasks, twists, rewards and punishments, the "grilling" too is all designed to elicit prisoner and guard type behaviour so the viewer will judge and try to control "bad" people and support and reward "good" people. Since the viewers are restricted in taking part in the punishment by merely voting to throw out the "bad" lot one at the time which may take time or may not happen at all, the host has become the medium for instant, swift retribution. At the end of the session it makes them feel so much better that all is well with their world."""""""""


Edited by -Cruiser- - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
#42
for all those who are sick and tired of salman khan's bullying and favouritism on BB and wanna know how a good host looks like,just watch Farhan Akhtar on Zee TV's I Can Do That. u would never wanna watch sallu miyan again. i have never ever seen a cuter and down to earth celebrity host on an indian tv show. i was not much of a farhan fan but after i started watching ICDT,i love him to bits! what a charming,kind,classy,humble,witty man!!!! all the contestants adore him. salman could learn more than a lesson or two from him in how to be a human being,leave alone a host.
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Posted: 10 years ago
#43
Yes he acts as a censor board...he should only stick to anchoring...
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Chingaari

Much needed post.Agreed with almost every point

Beautifully written👍🏼

Thanks chingaari ji...😊
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Posted: 10 years ago
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True..Salman proves kishwar and her gang right with this biased opinion and bashing...either stand up for all or shut up and dnt interfere...am fine with bullying the bullies but u dnt get to walk all over on Sum contestants and let other get away with murder..he has been steadily doing it since season 7 and it's killing the show..
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Posted: 10 years ago
#46
Well done Cruiser.. 👏
Awesome post👍🏼.. Agree totally..
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Posted: 10 years ago
#47

Originally posted by: love_never_dies

Well done Cruiser.. 👏

Awesome post👍🏼.. Agree totally..

Thanks...😊

Where have you been?? 😲

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Posted: 10 years ago
#48
Good post! I agree with it! Nothing to add as salman is dheeth! He will not change. Just a wish that he is out of bb so that show doesn't get spoiled because of him.
Ps! Can someone tell me from where I can watch episodes online? I want to watch day 2 task wala episode.
Edited by *Dev.* - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
#49

Originally posted by: -Cruiser-

Those of you who know me, would know I mostly stick to making fun takes / fun posts on Bigg Boss and most of my takes are mere caricaturing of Bigg Boss House contestants based on what they themselves say or do on the show OR, are extremely capable of saying or doing based on their own statements or acts on the show!😊

Apart from News channels, Bigg Boss is the only Indian TV show that I watch and my fascination for this show stems from the fact that the concept of this show is simply mind blowing! 👏

In an ideal world, if one strictly goes by the concept, it is to 'cage' some 15-16 individuals in a house, test their behavior and reactions to situations and one another by means of testing tasks and based on how their personalities come out on the show, let audience vote for them to stay on in the show or boot them out!👍🏼

Salman Khan is a huge Bollywood star who has had and continues to enjoy a phenomenal career in Hindi films. In so many ways he is the jaan of Bigg Boss show and is an absolutely delightful anchor.

I find it difficult to imagine this show being anchored by anyone else as well as Salman does, (I must admit I have only watched Season 5, 6, 7, a bit of 8 and now a few weeks of 9).

Over all Salman has been wonderful, even conceding he does seem to develop liking for a few almost every season. One thing his detractors would readily concede is that by no stretch of imagination Season 5, 6,7 and 8 winners were those for whom he had any kind of bias. Infact, Juhi Parmar, Urvashi, Gauhar and Gautam Gulati were ones on whom he was accused of being harsh and even unfair.

So if evidence is anything to go by, his real or perceived bias has hardly has had any impact on the eventual winner of a Bigg Boss season that he has anchored and thats great in a way!😊

Personally, what I am not comfortable with is Salman's intervention to such an extent where an individual kills his or her personality to such an extent that it totally kills the spirit of this brilliant game show!

Yes, if someone is spitting in someone's food, you must quickly come down harsh so that this kind of absolutely disgusting behavior is nipped in the bud!

But then how can you reprimand Kishwar for spitting on food and brush aside Aman Verma with a quick "Aman ne nahin thhooka" stamp of approval?

In a situation where one or two are spitting in someone's food and one is 'acting to spit', the one 'acting' is in any way letting others in house know that he is spitting and it's cool, right? So how can you reprimand spitting one and condone the 'actor'? 😲

Tonight's Saturday episode was a complete bash session of Suyyash-Kishwar-Prince!

Personally for me, all these contestants are mere individuals and I merely get my smiles from what they do or say, I twist it a bit and share my fun takes with you to see the lighter side of the same. So personally, one day I like someone, the next day, may be someone else.

What I did not like today at all is that Salman went over the top and now onwards if Prince becomes a Mauni Baba, Kishwar a silent Dukhiyaari Naari and Suyyash someone holding a hanky for Kishwar, it won't surprise me one bit and that defeats the soul concept of Bigg Boss!😕

Let individuals be! For God's sake!

Let them behave freely as they wish.

All you need to tackle is unacceptable behaviors of physical violence or stuff like spitting in someone's food. More than that, let audience be the judge!

Would audience enjoy a show where certain individuals are bashed to an extent where they all turn into disinterested Rimi Sen type, minus her scorns and roll of eyes? 😲

Bigg Boss house should simply be an open script where diversity of human natures and their mental strength or the lack of it helps emerge some as heroes some as villains, some as comedians, some as cry babies and some as mere nobodies!

Why should the interference be to such an extent where a budding villain is asked to pose as a hero and in the end, make a total mess of whole concept? 😲

Either you take a simple stand that,"Mandana you were wrong in touching Kishwar's clothes and you should understand that if you took her clothes, your clothes would be targeted too! And you shouldn't cry that you handled clothes of Kishwar appropriately whereas she and her side kick's didn't, because you have given a chance to others and people can get carried away in the heat of moment!"

Problem arises when you are OK with Mandana touching Kishwar's clothes but bulldozing Prince with a,"Koi aap ki behan ke suitcase ko haath lagaata, toh kya phir bhi-----"??? 😲

Puneet is another interesting character who has been totally killed by host intervention! 😕

He came full of energy, charged and could have created so many funny / peculiar situations!

Now just because he was being a FENKU, boasting of his links and work with Shahrukh, Salman etc., his having left three films for Bigg Boss you bashed him with a "Puneet, you look a complete fool when you speak like that!"

Why?? Why couldn't you just let him be his self and emerge as either a joker or a fool or a very funny character? One hard bash and that guy retreated into his shell completely! That's surely not what Bigg Boss idea is about isn't it?😲

When you told Kishwar that she was wrong in suggesting Bigg Boss is biased against her you had a valid point.

But in today's Saturday night bash of K-P-S, because you didn't get it right Sir, unanimous verdict of Prince and Kishwar was yes, you are biased against them and favour Mandana, and they said because Mandana is always right and we are always wrong, please kick us out of show!"

Now if it comes to that extreme, either you need to let it clearly come out that you are not biased or-----actually kick out Prince and Kishwar!

Now you don't want Kishwar, Prince to behave as they would if there was not a biased intervention and tomorrow if they transform into two Rimi Sens, you would say yaar aap log boring ho gaye ho----Just as Puneet is now-----(the maha boring man in house thanks to that one severe "Puneet, you look like a fool when you speak like that!"_)

Take it easy Salman Bhai----let the flowers bloom on their own, why nip and alter their shapes at their bud stages? That's a recipe for disaster!

Personally, simply as characters, I love Salman Khan and any day find Mandana more fascinating and interesting than Kishwar! Prince is another very interesting character too.

Simply control dangerous behaviors-spitting, throwing potatoes on someone's face (Actually that too should be controlled by Bigg Boss, not Salman), other than that why go into Is ka suitcase kyun utthaya, us ka bistar kyun hilaaya?" Too much hai boss!😆

Usually when I notice a bias, I point it out in a humorous way---as I have done it in this FB chat where Salman approves' Aman's conduct:

Facebook Chat-Salman Khan with Bigg Boss Housemates!

But tonight, Salman did go overboard. 👎🏼

Calm down Sir!👍🏼



... The problem is the three trio gets so much hyper ki vo agr sahi bhi h to audience ko galat hi lgenge ... isliye they shld be shown a video of how they are reacting to anything that happens .. n basically what mandana did was wrong but instead of using it as a plus point kishwer just spoiled the situation by getting aggressive n insulting bigg boss .. she is very dominating and strong player as well but all the three needs to do is use their brains as well... right now i m very disappointed with what these three are doing ... #gunde_of_house
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Posted: 10 years ago
#50
agree with your post👏
he was not much biased in s8
they are trying to recreate s8 with mandy as gulati

waise i feel ki ksp group next week targeted hogi

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