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Posted: 8 years ago
#51

Originally posted by: krystal_watz


But Saanjh doesn't know about Samay Maya equation.
Secondly, in a court of law, you have to speak logic and not based on personal biases. She said something which amounted to "If somebody if highly efficient, they should automatically know how to fight rapists". That was highly problematic.


But she suerly knows maya arjun equation. How a six feet tall guy is under maya's thumb. How her employee fear her. She knows ayan to what extent he can do wrong. She knows maya to what extent she can go.


Y maya did not used gun?
Y maya tied up arjun
Y maya did not allowed jhanvi to help her if this was real attempt or she needed help.

If she really felt guilty n wanted to commit sucide . Y she made sure that this tym jhanvi is not locked n arjun is free.

Y she didn't kick ayan like she did to samay. How police reached on just tym.


Was ayan even conscious when he was in compromising position ? He doesn't even remember half of the things . ? We don't know his story.saanjh is not aware of full truth but she is aware that its mayajaal. As lawyer she will have dig it out to save ayan.


At the end of Beyhadh if cvs show ayan is real culprit than ayan deserve this punishment. If its maya than this is not atall her insult but its her reality n she needs punishment fir this crime even her medical illness is not excuse
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Posted: 8 years ago
#52

Originally posted by: ashpat3


Thats actually called getting taste of your medicine 😆. If she is so righteous then nothing can stop her to win why does that to include her so called boyfriend who does not even love. Why does she need her bf to win the case if she is so intelligent

no she doesn't need any boyfriend but the boyfriend himself will need to back stab her by claiming to witness a half truth. She rather doesn't need him to be there because she knows Samay can create unnecessary problems by being a half witness . But Samay will do that for sure. to prove his obsessed love for maya.
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Posted: 8 years ago
#53

Originally posted by: krystal_watz


That question was definitely 'crossing her limits' if we go by real life scenario.

In every single sexual assault case, the defense lawyer is tasked with defending the accused. They may or may not believe their clients' innocence, but they cannot ask mocking questions to the victim. It is prohibited as per protocol and human rights sensibilities.

Saying 'one can handle everything' means that they would also be able to handle being raped? What kind of an effed-up reasoning was that?


If asking that question was offensive or 'crossed the limits', then judge would definitely stop her?
In real life we should not ask such question to real victim.
I have never seen a real case, but in movies I have seen defense lawyers ask mocking questions.
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Posted: 8 years ago
#54
Did I miss something? 🤔
YT episode didnt have these dialogues
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Posted: 8 years ago
#55
I the TM believe maya is NOT a rape victim.
And my biggest question is why didn't the JUDGE stop Saanjh?
I was a regular viewer of ADAALAT a defense lawyer centred series and I have seen KD pathak mocking several times to get to the truth.
Saanjh is here only to get to the truth.
Yes I don't have much knowledge of law, but I definitely believe the makers do. I trust our creatives and the creatives-created JUDGE too. So until and unless the JUDGE objects I don't have any problem with any question of Saanjh.

And regarding Samay she held her back because half truths can prove to be dangerous. And he though is a witness, he reached at the end. So half a witness with half a truth. But definitely if public prosecutor summons him ...he'll go there dancing to stage his half truth FOR maya. I will anyways just wait and watch and not encourage bashing by just half an episode court drama.

And to whoever it may concern I won't tolerate slangs being used in my posts. I myself have never used slangs against even the most dreadful character. You using slangs every sentence shows your cheapness. Please don't expose your cheapness in public.
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Posted: 8 years ago
#56

Originally posted by: SaurabhKiRadha


But she suerly knows maya arjun equation. How a six feet tall guy is under maya's thumb. How her employee fear her. She knows ayan to what extent he can do wrong. She knows maya to what extent she can go.


Y maya did not used gun?
Y maya tied up arjun
Y maya did not allowed jhanvi to help her if this was real attempt or she needed help.

If she really felt guilty n wanted to commit sucide . Y she made sure that this tym jhanvi is not locked n arjun is free.

Y she didn't kick Ryan like she did to samay. How police reached on just tym.


Was ayan even conscious when he was in compromising position ? He doesn't even remember half of the things . ? We don't know his story.saanjh is not aware of full truth but she is aware that its mayajaal. As lawyer she will have dig it out to save ayan.


At the end of Beyhadh if cvs show ayan is real culprit than ayan deserve this punishment. If its maya than this is not atall her insult but its her reality n she needs punishment fir this crime even her medical illness is not excuse

@bold: Maya didn't know that Ayaan would rp off her clothes & bite her neck. If Maya's mental illness is not an excuse them even Ayaan's intoxication is also not an excuse. when a person drives the vehicle in a drunk state & kills a person, even that is a crime. Then rape or attempt to rape in not a small thing.
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Posted: 8 years ago
#57

Originally posted by: SaurabhKiRadha


But she suerly knows maya arjun equation. How a six feet tall guy is under maya's thumb. How her employee fear her. She knows ayan to what extent he can do wrong. She knows maya to what extent she can go.


Y maya did not used gun?
Y maya tied up arjun
Y maya did not allowed jhanvi to help her if this was real attempt or she needed help.

If she really felt guilty n wanted to commit sucide . Y she made sure that this tym jhanvi is not locked n arjun is free.

Y she didn't kick ayan like she did to samay. How police reached on just tym.


Was ayan even conscious when he was in compromising position ? He doesn't even remember half of the things . ? We don't know his story.saanjh is not aware of full truth but she is aware that its mayajaal. As lawyer she will have dig it out to save ayan.


At the end of Beyhadh if cvs show ayan is real culprit than ayan deserve this punishment. If its maya than this is not atall her insult but its her reality n she needs punishment fir this crime even her medical illness is not excuse

agreed totes.
To dig into matters you have to begin from the base. And remember saanjh is not just a hired lawyer, she very well knows maya's manipulations. So it's better to watch how she proceeds than just start howling over her last sentence with which the episode ended. We don't even totally know if she was actually referring to handling rape.
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Posted: 8 years ago
#58

Originally posted by: ---Khushi---

Even I thought the court room drama was pretty flawed, & Saanjh''s preparation & questioning quite faulty...


1)what big deduction did Saanjh do by deducing that Maya is Arjun's psycho boss wife???...The whole world can deduce that without a paper n pen in hand, without a diagram needed for deduction

2)what made her think that Samay could have been kept away from court?...He's the only n the key witness in the case... The prosecution will definitely call upon him...Saanjh should have anticipated that n prepared her questions for Samay accordingly...

3)I agree with some opinions here that it was an insensitive remark by Saanjh that if Maya could handle everything so smoothly, y couldn't she handle attempt to rape? Handling a business n handling attempt to rape are two different issues...Saanjh believes that Maya has trapped Ayan, but it hasn't been proven yet...Hence, presently, Ayan is the accused, & Maya the victim till proven otherwise...

4)Aneri needs to tone down her diction ...Saanjh sounded pompous & arrogant while talking to the media...Even the dialogues given to her were Ott...

5)All in all, I was disappointed with Saanjh's approach to the case n the court room drama...CVs, buck up, please...


I agree, the question could have been avoided. But she definitely had a point in asking it and putting it that way.

As you had mentioned, the diagram she had drawn on that paper, she might have conceptualized and planned it accordingly. Like many mentioned, Maya is no abla naari with the way she dealt with Samay, but... This could also be a point to be noted by opponent of saanjh, Maya has always shown her weak side when it came to dealing with abusive male, including Ashwin. She was weak and vulnerable there... Not comparing the two different guys here, but understanding this weak side of Maya. Still unsure of who is right, I am just putting a point which defend lawyer can definitely raise. Hence, Saanjh's question was definitely not invalid, given the side she has seen of Maya. But now its on other side, how they take it forward. Arjun himself can bring around about Ashwin at this point. Of course it would be more painful for Maya here, as it would bring back memories of that devil as compared to "pain" by saanj's point.

Saanjh is wrong to ask Samay to not come... 😆 Illogical, but I feel Samay will end the game. He might also mention that saanjh had requested him not to come.
But I believe that's just so that CVs can add on courtroom scenes.
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Posted: 8 years ago
#59
While Sanj was on point trying to bring out Maya's obsession for Arjun, which is key to the case if she is to prove maya did this to separate Arjun from his family. I thought she was brilliant with that line of questioning. But the if she could handle everything why couldn't she handle this was a very insensitive comment. That was my big thumbs down for Sanj today, everything else from lawyer Sanjh was good.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: BIaddict

While Sanj was on point trying to bring out Maya's obsession for Arjun, which is key to the case if she is to prove maya did this to separate Arjun from his family. I thought she was brilliant with that line of questioning. But the if she could handle everything why couldn't she handle this was a very insensitive comment. That was my big thumbs down for Sanj today, everything else from lawyer Sanjh was good.


Well, you have to take it into consideration, even if it may seem insensitive. Any line of questioning towards a potential rape victim can seem insensitive, but it is necessary.

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