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Posted: 8 years ago
@Laska history is repeating. Little Arjun trusted VM played with her. We dont know what she did with Raksha. The way she is behaving I cant imagine how she would have taken care of a terminally ill patient that too suffering from cancer who takes loads of pain which even pain killers cannot take away. Did Raksha die of disease of seeing her husband slowly drifting towards their care taker. Did she feel there was no need for her to come back and she left the stage for this woman VM to grab her husband.
Maya is a sick girl, VM has come to her. Does she expect Maya to leave the stage so that Saanjh path is clear and she get what she wants.

Cant she allow choice for Arjun once. Why it has to be always barging in.
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: shruthiravi

@Laska history is repeating. Little Arjun trusted VM played with her. We dont know what she did with Raksha. The way she is behaving I cant imagine how she would have taken care of a terminally ill patient that too suffering from cancer who takes loads of pain which even pain killers cannot take away. Did Raksha die of disease of seeing her husband slowly drifting towards their care taker. Did she feel there was no need for her to come back and she left the stage for this woman VM to grab her husband.

Maya is a sick girl, VM has come to her. Does she expect Maya to leave the stage so that Saanjh path is clear and she get what she wants.

Cant she allow choice for Arjun once. Why it has to be always barging in.

Vandana is the real Dayaan, she took away Arjun's parents from his life and now want to take away his wife too! I really hope the spoiler of Samay killing VM is true. Can't see her rotten face and popping eyes anymore. She is just absolutely disgrace for a woman! No compassion in her for a sick girl🤢🤢 I am glad just few more episodes and than she will be dead😆😆😆😆
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: shruthiravi

@Laska history is repeating. Little Arjun trusted VM played with her. We dont know what she did with Raksha. The way she is behaving I cant imagine how she would have taken care of a terminally ill patient that too suffering from cancer who takes loads of pain which even pain killers cannot take away. Did Raksha die of disease of seeing her husband slowly drifting towards their care taker. Did she feel there was no need for her to come back and she left the stage for this woman VM to grab her husband.

Maya is a sick girl, VM has come to her. Does she expect Maya to leave the stage so that Saanjh path is clear and she get what she wants.

Cant she allow choice for Arjun once. Why it has to be always barging in.


I am sorry but I beg to differ...I don't think that Arjun's real mom died when she saw her husband drifting away towards Vandana

I also don't agree with the fact that it is Raksha's upbringing rather than Vandana's that Arjun is caring towards Maya

Firstly I agree that Vandana's behaviour towards Maya was wrong and I condemn it but to use that to say that Vandana might have had an extra marital affair with her best friend's (who was terminally ill ) husband is just harsh in my opinion.

Why look at Vandana's one wrong action and overlook all her good deeds.

She loved Arjun unconditionally , she treated him the same way she treats his own son...Arjun didn't speak to her for years and still she tried to mend their relations...still treated him and loved him liked a real mother would.

She was never a bad mother...She is not shown as a characterless woman who possibly had an affair.

Vandana raised both Arjun and Ayaan and both are decent human beings...Yes Ayaan entered Maya's house to free his brother...and used abusive language...but rape was never his intention that has been cleared...Also I am not even sure that he ripped Maya's dress deliberately...but that is not even the point here.

Vandana raised both Arjun and Ayaan and inculcated some values in both...If Arjun cares for Maya then it is coz of his upbringing..Raksha's 6 years of upbringing and rest of the years' upbringing by Vandana as well.

Vandana went to stop Arjun from beating Maya coz she said that his son cannot raise a hand on a woman no matter if that woman had broken her hand...These were her values and she was relieved to see that Arjun did not touch Maya (Although actor's expressions could have been better in that scene)

The way Vandana treated Maya should not be used as a sole reason to call her a bad mother / possibly a characterless woman while ignoring her other good deeds.


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Posted: 8 years ago
@anshvi I cannot believe she took care of a terminally ill patient seeing her behaviour. You need empathy for that. Leave her behaviour with Maya now, she was unwilling to bring Jhanvi to their house. Jhanvi was genuinely ill. A care taker person can have so many personal grudges, but to close the door to a woman who is ill, doesnt go with the claim of her character that has come to treat a terminally ill patient.
Second did you read my part. I told her husband drifting towards another woman. Here it is not VM at fault, it is Arjun's father. Arjun has always blamed VM for snatching his father away from him. If you read my earlier posts during initial episodes I had told have Arjun ever tried to look at it from his father's perspective than blaming his step mom alone for the marriage. What if there was mistake on his father's side than his step mom's.

In one sentence I cannot believe Vandana's sob story about her marriage to Arjun's father. It is a facade. It might not have had any sinster things like that of Ashwin and Jhanvi, but it is not pure either as the sob story tells.
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: shruthiravi

@anshvi I cannot believe she took care of a terminally ill patient seeing her behaviour. You need empathy for that. Leave her behaviour with Maya now, she was unwilling to bring Jhanvi to their house. Jhanvi was genuinely ill. A care taker person can have so many personal grudges, but to close the door to a woman who is ill, doesnt go with the claim of her character that has come to treat a terminally ill patient.

Second did you read my part. I told her husband drifting towards another woman. Here it is not VM at fault, it is Arjun's father. Arjun has always blamed VM for snatching his father away from him. If you read my earlier posts during initial episodes I had told have Arjun ever tried to look at it from his father's perspective than blaming his step mom alone for the marriage. What if there was mistake on his father's side than his step mom's.

In one sentence I cannot believe Vandana's sob story about her marriage to Arjun's father. It is a facade. It might not have had any sinster things like that of Ashwin and Jhanvi, but it is not pure either as the sob story tells.


I am not sure if his father was like that or not coz for that CVs need to show something and I don't think CVs will show anything coz that doesn't have any impact on the current story nor is related to it...So , one can leave it to one's assumption what they want to believe...For me CVs neither have shown anything or have given any sort of indication nor any clues nor any proofs that suggest that Arjun's father would have drifted towards Vandana or they had an extra marrital affair...So, will not assume anything else here but what CVs have shown unless something else is shown by the CVs in future...This is clearly an assumption which is far fetched in my opinion...To each his own

Secondly

To say that coz Vandana didn't behave properly with Maya then she has no empathy I am not sure how correct this statement is.

We have to keep in mind that Raksha was Vandana's best friend whom she took care of 24*7...To take care of Raksha's son she got married to her husband and even while taking care of Raksha she didn't think about the society even once and after marriage she tried her best to give a mother's love to Arjun.

If she was a woman who had no empathy then she would have ill-treated Arjun as well...She is not a black person in my opinion.

I feel that her motherly feelings and motherly instincts blinded her and clouded her sense of empathy when it came to Maya...Coz she had seen how Maya behaved and she deep down knew that Maya wasn't the right girl for Arjun...Her judgement and sense of empathy got clouded by her concern for her son and fear for her son's safety.

She like other characters may be flawed and certainly has made mistakes but is certainly not black as projected by few...This is my opinion.

P.S. - Whether Vandana's story was a fake sob story only time will tell and till then I will definitely believe it to be true untill shown otherwise by the CVs and will not assume anything till then


Edited by anshvi - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
@sunithi, this is luxury. This is Maya's love. This is the whole package. Duffer wants to get rid of the part that prevents him. But at the same time keep everything else
This is not love. Selfishness speaks. He needs beyhadh love. He needs the love that Jhanvi had to Ashwin. Even Dusky at this point is a dubious candidate. Dusky demanded that he quit his job, because Maya represented a menace to her

If Arjun loved Maya he would not have the question will Maya love him after or not. He would just choose Maya's life. Just life. Not eternal torture in fire
At this point, he is like Jhanvi. Jhanvi also could not choose between her selfishness and her daughter's life
Maya asks "Why does Arjun hurt her?" He hurts her. With words. With actions. Immense pain

Jhanvi must fulfill the duty of the mother at least once. But she again confused me. Just wondering what's going on in her head? What does she think? What does she hear? Who does she hear? What does she understand? And does she understand anything?

Once VM had already taken everything from Duffer, he decided to try it again. That is his choice


@shruthiravi, this is the main problem for me. How can a person who doesn't have compassion care for a seriously ill person? It is very difficult. It is exhausting. It takes away strength. And it requires great patience, even against yourself. And looking at behavior of VM, it is clearly not this person
And intentions. While she agrees with Duffer, VM thinks quite differently. How to free everyone from a sick person
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Posted: 8 years ago
Laska: There is a new spoiler, Samay lays trap to kill Arjun but Vandy saves Arjun and dies instead. And now promo shows Maya shooting Vandy 😆 Do you wanna comment on what it could be exactly?
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Posted: 8 years ago
@Laska how to free everyone from a sick person. That's a wonderful take😃
@anshvi you can have your views. But I am a person who not only watches, but writes fiction too. I take a lot of effort in character sketching so that the actions of a character is consistent. So inconsistent words and actions in any story both me and I cant take things for face value.
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: shruthiravi

@Laska how to free everyone from a sick person. That's a wonderful take😃

@anshvi you can have your views. But I am a person who not only watches, but writes fiction too. I take a lot of effort in character sketching so that the actions of a character is consistent. So inconsistent words and actions in any story both me and I cant take things for face value.


Well let's see if what u have 'assumed' turns out to be true or remains ur assumption.
As far as I am concerned I understand things from the story's perspective and which are logical.
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Posted: 8 years ago
@OriginalsFan, can't say that this is unexpected. It is quite expected. This is Maya
The more fear, the more desperate the struggle
When a person suffocates, she simply fights for air. For life itself
Therefore, Maya will go further. Maya is burning. Maya will burn. Until she burns to ashes

What it will be actually, well, we should see the episode

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