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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: pomegranate


sure but this is a tv serial, I rather spend that energy somewhere else. I've seen these debates in other topics, and it does not look all productive and I decided that I won't break my head over this.

yes, it is Arjun's life as well but who gave her the right to snoop around maya's life? she may think she has exclusive rights to Arjun, but not maya's especially when it may be a medical issue? she is saving Arjun so it is ok to go digging around in someone personal history? not to mention Arjun is a grown adult, and it is time to let him go off on his own.


Given Saanjh's history with Arjun, I don't think she will let him lead himself into destruction like that. U get a mail about Maya being a threat to arjun, with a suspension letter attached, the girl ur best friend ia going to marry threatens to kill ur best friend and herself if he doesn't accept her love, she eats chillies without water just to show u that she can do anything for ur best friend, she points a knife at u after calling u for dinner. U only tell me, what would u do? Let ur best friend be? See him happily destroying his life? Would u not want to know about this girl? No matter how personal things are they will affect arjun, and like I said Saanjh is only concerned about Arjun's well being. And Arjun isn't mature enough to handle things. If he was then he'd make something of Maya's erratic behaviour.
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: lumos_31


Given Saanjh's history with Arjun, I don't think she will let him lead himself into destruction like that. U get a mail about Maya being a threat to arjun, with a suspension letter attached, the girl ur best friend ia going to marry threatens to kill ur best friend and herself if he doesn't accept her love, she eats chillies without water just to show u that she can do anything for ur best friend, she points a knife at u after calling u for dinner. U only tell me, what would u do? Let ur best friend be? See him happily destroying his life? Would u not want to know about this girl? No matter how personal things are they will affect arjun, and like I said Saanjh is only concerned about Arjun's well being. And Arjun isn't mature enough to handle things. If he was then he'd make something of Maya's erratic behaviour.


Arjun's character has not been developed to that extent and it is too early to say about that. But to the extent I've seen, he could successfully calm Maya down and pacify her. No marriage is perfect and no human is perfect. There are ups and downs. If she feels that Maya is destroying his life, he is no better with Saanjh as she underestimates his capacity to deal with different situations. Unless the person jumps into the pool how will they to swim?

Making a marriage happy or miserable is in the hands of a couple. Even the parents respect the decision of their children after a certain age.
Edited by katrinasalman - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
Shruthi, when Arjun beat up ashwin, you said Arjun should have told everyone the truth considering the circumstances. I disagreed, because maya's past is sensitive and should not be disclosed just like that, he respected her privacy and I appreciated that regardless of the consequences. Maya suffers from depression, PTSD and perhaps borderline personality as well. it takes years for people to realize they have a serious mental problem and even longer to talk about. to see saanj hell bent on digging it up for Arjun's safety just because she thinks she has the right to is bizarre- it is almost like rendering someone vulnerable. even thinking of someone I barely know going through my medical history, hospital records, or snooping around my medicine cabinet makes me mad so I'm not okay with her combing through maya's life history to "save Arjun"
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: ...EhSaas...

Everything is fair in love and war

Dice are in maya favour right now but how long???
Today her manipulations are witness as a caring and loving side but tomorrow when things will go against her even if she will do anything genuinely will be witness as game

About her fear I am not sure it was manipulation game or genuine but her shock for marriage news was shock to her

She might have expecting arjun to declare by himself about them infront of media or arjun will decide to come to stay at her house

But I wish her fear was genuine not manipulative because it was the time when maya is 100 % genuine to arjun and don't hide her real self from him

Beauty of arya relationship is how is real maya child in her witness by arjun and arjun only after her mother and arjun 100 % honest to her

If manipulations games will continue in this side too they will loose essence atleast for me

Today she is taking arjun love agni pariksha tomorrow she has to give test of her love

If you notice sanjh wear same cloth in precap, yesterday segment and her pic with Ashwin

May be sanjh will witness how arjun got hurt because of maya and will join hands with Ashwin

Makers are dragging unnecessarily maya issue. It is better they start to open layer by layer otherwise many will loose interest

I will miss malkani and sanjh scene because their scene are nice and cute

@bold: Maya is genuinely scared of Ashwin. She only gets courage from Arjun to face him. So I don't think she has manipulated in that. He has saved her from him when he came to her cabin to to torture her. He has seen her dual personality.
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: ishakumar


@shruthi thanks for reminding us that one earring scenario!
Seriously totally forgot about that... Saanjh will never be happy with Arjun, because he will be useless. He won't be able to give her what she expects, and technically he will be "used"
Technically he will be Maya's used thing, something that will always belong to Maya, whether or not if she has him. At the end of the day, one earring can't be complete without the other, and the other one is in Maya's possession. Only useful when one person has both.
Similar to the scenario ki kaise jaan ek dusre mein atki hui ho. Jaan nikal jaati hai jab ek na ho toh. Aur Aur agar Maya nahi toh Arjun bhi bekaar hai 😉 😳


@shruthi
Actually speaking, even single earring has become the latest fashion. I would say that one shoe is useless without the other.😆 Either a person should have the full pair or be without that pair otherwise, it will be useless. Saanjh will not be happy with Arjun as he never felt for her the same way she feels for him. Maya will continue to remain as Arjun's first love whether she is with him or not.
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: pomegranate

Shruthi, when Arjun beat up ashwin, you said Arjun should have told everyone the truth considering the circumstances. I disagreed, because maya's past is sensitive and should not be disclosed just like that, he respected her privacy and I appreciated that regardless of the consequences. Maya suffers from depression, PTSD and perhaps borderline personality as well. it takes years for people to realize they have a serious mental problem and even longer to talk about. to see saanj hell bent on digging it up for Arjun's safety just because she thinks she has the right to is bizarre- it is almost like rendering someone vulnerable. even thinking of someone I barely know going through my medical history, hospital records, or snooping around my medicine cabinet makes me mad so I'm not okay with her combing through maya's life history to "save Arjun"


You are thinking from Mayas pov, not Saanjh's or Arjun's which is justifiable to an extent. I would really not like it if someone went thru my medical history. But having said that, if Saanjh can find out about Maya(which she surely will) and help her out, I see no wrong in it. Saanjh surely won't let Maya be once she gets to know about Mayas condition. She will speak to her about it. And I honestly feel this only will happen. That Saanjh and Arjun both will help Maya get better.
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: shruthiravi

@lumos the problem is Saanjh remembered all the scenes she wanted to remember. But she didnt remember one iota of the press conference Maya did. Where Maya spoke about the trauma she faced in childhood. The fbs shown in that press conference was clear that Maya did spoke about it. Her fears, her pains, her isolation. Not a single fb of that trauma came into Saanjh's head, she heard Maya's dialogue she is mad, but she didnt hear Arjun telling how Maya saved him.

You call it checking on information that is needed for your client to win. But such a lawyer wont win in real scenario.
What such lawyers forget is that the other person also want to win and will use the info that is needed for them. So ignoring Maya's trauma and how she outlived that trauma is going to cost Saanjh and not talking about her manipulation is going to cost Maya.

A good lawyer wins, when he or she has the info on other's defense and that defense is dismantled. Maya has power, even if Saanjh takes Arjun and she will use that power on Saanjh which will break her illusion once and for all. I am not telling Maya will win using the power, but Saanjh also wont win.

But the price of that power will be paid by 2 or 3 people who are not directly connected to this mess of Saanjh vs Maya


You have said it. This post conveys that Saanjh only remembers or recollects what is convenient to her and that is not a sign of a good advocate. Maya and Saanjh are wrong in their own ways and 2 wrongs does not make one right.
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Posted: 8 years ago
@lumos I will draw parallels with mythology. Because for you it may be mythology, but for me it is the invaluable constant knowledge which Lord gave to man, how to live life successfully with knowledge, wealth and power. The knowledge anyone in Kaliyuga can get if they have the surrender of Arjun to Krishna, have the humility to let go of the direction of their life's battle in his hand without complaining, without questioning.
You can disagree my POV I dont care, but I would request you not to mock at me drawing parallels with MB. Just because you dont understand the relevance of MB and BG doesnt mean it doesnt have any value in present life or to any present day story or characters.
Because it was about power then, it is about power now also and as a person I have experienced the healing power of those books even in the most terrible pain. They have helped me to take decisions in the most toughest time.
Because whenever in confusion I dont take decision " I only ask him show me the way " and the way happens. If you know BG or MB that is what you will learn also. Whenever in confusion dont take decision, dont say dialogue like give my happiness, my share of happiness blah blah instead surrender your ego and tell " I dont know what to do, help me" . Help will arrive


@pom I understand what you are telling, and yes I am also a person who doesnt like anyone simply opening my cupboards, take my things and dont observe the boundaries I have kept for them. . Especially snooping around in private moments is sickening.

But guys I request all of you to please stop. This is not a thread where you are going to go Saanjh did this and that and Maya is doing this and that. I have kept the rule strictly to those who are coming to this thread to keep the thread decorum. It is in the first page itself.
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: shruthiravi

@lumos I will draw parallels with mythology. Because for you it may be mythology, but for me it is the invaluable constant knowledge which Lord gave to man, how to live life successfully with knowledge, wealth and power. The knowledge anyone in Kaliyuga can get if they have the surrender of Arjun to Krishna, have the humility to let go of the direction of their life's battle in his hand without complaining, without questioning.

You can disagree my POV I dont care, but I would request you not to mock at me drawing parallels with MB. Just because you dont understand the relevance of MB and BG doesnt mean it doesnt have any value in present life or to any present day story or characters.
Because it was about power then, it is about power now also and as a person I have experienced the healing power of those books even in the most terrible pain. They have helped me to take decisions in the most toughest time.
Because whenever in confusion I dont take decision " I only ask him show me the way " and the way happens. If you know BG or MB that is what you will learn also. Whenever in confusion dont take decision, dont say dialogue like give my happiness, my share of happiness blah blah instead surrender your ego and tell " I dont know what to do, help me" . Help will arrive


@pom I understand what you are telling, and yes I am also a person who doesnt like anyone simply opening my cupboards, take my things and dont observe the boundaries I have kept for them. . Especially snooping around in private moments is sickening.

But guys I request all of you to please stop. This is not a thread where you are going to go Saanjh did this and that and Maya is doing this and that. I have kept the rule strictly to those who are coming to this thread to keep the thread decorum. It is in the first page itself.


Why did u see me telling u that I will rather compare real life situations than mythology to beyhadh as mockery? Nope, I didn't mean to mock u, sorry if u felt that way. I was saying what I would rather do, not that u comparing the characters to mythology was wrong.
I don't think anyone has spoilt the decorum of this thread. If everybody agrees to ur opinion, what's the point of discussion? Still if u dont want, il refrain from posting my pov.
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Posted: 8 years ago
@lumos nobody is agreeing to my opinion. There are enough people who are putting their own POV, you can see that if you go through this thread. Classic case being me telling Maya's fear was manipulative and many feeling no it is genuine.
Then if you are coming to discuss in a thread started by someone you have to know one basic thing, how will that person discuss. If you have started a thread and in your thread I have tried to put mythology you can tell I will discuss only contemporary it is fine, but in my thread if you come to discuss you will have to answer my questions and you cannot tell I will discuss only on contemporary characters because I own this thread.
If you go for discussion to someone's house, you will have to observe the decorum there and you should not be telling I want to do like this sitting in another person's house.

Then you dont decide who have broken the decorum, that right also rest with me as I said I am the owner of this thread. What is acceptable, what is not acceptable I will decide as far as this thread goes. Thanks in advance for understanding.


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