Is anandi failing Shivam too?

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Missesha

@Missesha

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Posted: 10 years ago

#101

Agree that all three were imposed and also agree that initially none of them speculated problems (which is also funny, considering that most normal people will foresee discomfort in such situations).

But just considering that initially they did what they had to, and later when they started seeing discomforts, who is in a better position to break this discomfort? Anandi or JaGan?

Of course Anandi, because JaGan are in no position to throw her out. Not because they will become villains in Dsa's eyes but also because they pity this woman with no husband and her fatherless child.

This is the same situation of A vs DB. Today JaGan are in A's shoes, and for them A is in DB's shoes. (i.e. bearing with a person imposed by their elders and putting up out of pity & respect).

However, A is no DB. She has not come to BH to bring destruction like DB did. (It's another matter that we don't know why A is even living in BH).

So all in all, why is Anandi failing to sense this discomfort and why is she still staying here. She has broken many promises in the past for all right and wrong reasons. She can break one more by convincing both Dsa / daddu that she needs space. Also she has regained her composure and her son is no more a toddler, hence she is in a better position to move out and look out for herself and her son.

That way, she will be doing Justice to herself, Shivam and JaGan.

But no reason at the moment is enough to justify her current stay in BH in her current conditions.

Edited by Missesha - 10 years ago

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Missesha

@Missesha

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Posted: 10 years ago

#102

Originally posted by: rohini55
Why are we being asked to imagine things that have not been shown?

If Cvs could show Anandi smearing colour on J's face, why couldn't they also show flashbacks of Ansh's holi moments? Why should we imagine this?

I'd have expected the first shot of post-leap BV to start hwith A telling Shivam about the bravery of his father. I'd have expected them to talk to Shiv's photo. That would have also been the opportune moment to tell Shivam about Nandini. And how and why he and his sister got the names Shivam and Nandini and also how in his dying moments he asked A to be mom and dad to the twins.

Why should we imagine that this happened in the 11 years? In that case I might as well imagine a completely different BV according to my taste.

If indeed all this had happened, shivam would have had no reason to feel envious about Abhi having J as his father. He'd have spoken about his heroic father instead of looking longingly at J.

If now they show A talking to Shivam about Shiv, it will be a case of too little too late. It won't negate what has already been shown.

Agree, going by what has been shown, it does not come across that Shivam knows anything about his father in depth, except for the surface level information.

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rohini55

@rohini55

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Posted: 10 years ago

#103

I can't understand why Anandi did not emotionally blackmail Shehars, or at least daddu, into staying back in KB. Anandi who is excellent at giving bhashans suddenly became tongue-tied? Not credible at all.

Since the Shekhars were apologising to A about the Nandini episode, it would have been the right time to appeal to their good sense and emotion. Anandi could have told them about Shiv's last wish and argued that it was not within her powers to break the promise. She could have spoken about Shiv's memories in KB and the need for the kids to grow up in their own home.

She could have got emotional and asked why they were depriving her kids of their legacy.

Did she do any of this?

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aparnauma

@GoodDoc_2105

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Posted: 10 years ago

#104

There is no reason for her to stay in BH now - we don't really know how things had been over the past eleven years.

May be Anandi was making sure that Shivam behaved well and made sure that he realised he was in the wrong when things went wrong.May be she was making sure that Shivam didn't end up as a spoilt brat.May be she was just trying to contain the situation

Kids were the reason she came over to BH and kids probably will be the reason that she will move out.

But I am sure Dadisa will have heart attack if and when Anandi tries to move out😛🤢

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hisusmita

@hisusmita

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Posted: 10 years ago

#105

I hated CVs stand to bring Anandi in BH

They did this becoz they are now more interested to show Nandini's story with such a huge cast

So they brought this side under one roof so that they dont have to divide screen space in three parts.

I guess no one wanted Anandi to be in BH.

She is independent, confident , belongs from a wealthy family so there is no way she would come here. Do you think this is logical any family would leave their DIL like this when their grand daughter is missing>?

But to show their ever green kachhe umar ke rishtey they brought her here with some irrelevant logic

And whitewashed all their blunders by making Anandi tongue tied by Daddus order, DS's emotional blackmailing. They will not go by any logic what is being discussed here.

They did show her disagreement to stay in BH but again she was shut up.

That much is CVs reply to all who wanted Anandi not to stay in BH and they think that is enough. They will not show anything else.

As per them that is enough that Anandi is staying there against her wishes but to keep the words of the elders.

May be nothing more is left story wise in this part so this family drama with Anandi around so that she can be bashed. They told thru DS that BH is not just her mayke ka dor but bachho ka (I forgot the line) dor too.

We dont know what happened in 11 years but have to assume all is well.

Now regarding this Shivam Abhi track only two incidents were shown and it has been shown Anandi telling Shivam to behave properly.

So surely she will sense this. Unless by these two scenes they dont show Abhi's insecurity and Ganga;s misunderstanding viewer's will also not know

Now viewer's know so hopefully she will understand too.

This is not a very big issue, It happens almost in every house between own brother and sister also. It could have happened if Suguna would have stayed here with her kids and they were of the same age group.

But hope before it turns ugly they show her sensing it.

All ANSHIANS wanted Anandi to remember Shiv always . They raise her kids with Shiv being her driving force.

Talk with Shiv's photo , sharing good things with Shiv but due to some reason known only to CVs they never showed what happened last 11 years.

But do you think this is the way ? If they had to show widow Anandi's struggle why they showed the leap instead show her struggle.

They too are not sure what they want to show. They think with Nandini they can create little Anandi's story again which is not possible.

Pain of loosing child is much more than loosing husband . May be she is too occupied with Nandini's thought .

Do you think anything is logical?

Ex- Collector Shivraj Shekhar's daughter, Anandi , the director of Bhaili, her daughter, MLA Jagdish Singh's reach nothing could get the child back in 11 years?

But they will show this

The way 11 years has passed nothing has changed only new casts were introduced and now with them new family drama.

So she will be here so that they can show family drama

But in this they made sure Anandi did raised Shivam properly . He became very much like Amol

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leavesandwaves

@leavesandwaves

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Posted: 10 years ago

#106

Ex- Collector Shivraj Shekhar's daughter, Anandi , the director of Bhaili, her daughter, MLA Jagdish Singh's reach nothing could get the child back in 11 years?

Not only these people. Even Chief Minister knows Shiv and Anandi very well. Strange he did not do his bit to find Nandini.

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Missesha

@Missesha

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Posted: 10 years ago

#107

@ Susmita,

The reasons for this outrage and concluding that Anandi has also failed as a mother to Shivam are:

- Anandi going back to BH and residing like a refugee when there was no need

- Keeping Shivam away from where he belongs to (both physically and emotionally) when there was no need.

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As a viewer, to me this story was largely about Anandi and Jagya and how they handled their lives due to good and bad effects of bal-vivah.

So if CVs think that Nandini's story will work just as Ja-An's did, then they are wrong big time.

This story would have been sold only if they showed a progressive widow in Anandi, who struggles to give the best to her children and what all she goes through to get there, with or without Shekhars. The emotional content of viewers lies with Anandi, not with Nandini.

Making her stay in BH is the most regressive step taken by makers, which does not justify Anandi's character, motives or decisions in any way. It rather imposes questions on her ability to become a good mother, her decision making skills and the concept of women-empowerment.

The current Anandi and the show does not make sense.

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loveanime

@loveanime

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Posted: 10 years ago

#108

Originally posted by: aparnauma
Shiv's wishes were to see his family TO GETHER happily - They are TO GETHER and they are not at war with each other. That happened only because she handed over all the details to the law enforcing agencies - and that brought Anop to his senses. So what if Anop is in jail they are one family unlike the time when they were living under one roof and behaving like enemies.

Did Shiv want them to stay together under one roof and keep reaching for each other's necks????
Or dd he want them to be ONE BIG HAPPY FAMILY who cared for each other???????

The same brothers were willing to go to any extent to take care of each other after Anop was exposed.and they themselves identified DB is a threat and made sure she is kicked out because she threatened their unity.

Today Alok Ira Meenu and Daddu eagerly await Anop's punishment to get over so that thet y can all live underone roof in harmony unlike the time when they found each others company unbearable.

Unfortunately Shekhar family dodn't seem to care for their Daughter in law or for Shiv's children. Had they cared for Shiv's children they would not have left them behind like this and expect Singhs to help her out.

Anyways people's ideas of togetherness don't extend beyond staying under the same roof happily together or resenting each other.

They will not understand the concept togetherness comes from caring for each other and being there for each other. and distances like geographical distances do not matter anymore.

If the two brothers are so caring towards each other and Anop realising how is acts have caused so much distress to the family - it's because Anandi took the decision to hand over the information to the govt agencies - Something which should have been done by Daddu and he didn't have guts to do that and passed it off to his DIL. Did he ever wonder how tought it would be for Anandi to hand her father in law to the law enforcement authorities??? No.

This is the family that Shiv gave her.

They are together just like he wished but they don't care for his children or his widow.

I agree we cannot compare shiv's family to dadisa. anandi was only part of that family as long as shiv was alive, it is my personal opinion i never saw any great warmth for her in that house, shiv's family would not shift heaven and earth for anandi sake but dadisa will. she will always be dadisa laadli beti. no matter how good jagya is now he was a scoundrel before and the house belongs to anandi more she has done so much for she has a permanent place there that no one can take. anandi is minding her own business if jagya cannot manage his wife and kids and breeding insecurity in them that is his problem not anandi. how is shivam being there being blamed for jagya aloofness he might have become like that regardless, was shiv like that when he was collector. maybe shiv was better at managing family and authority. jagyas problems are his own maybe anandi kids being there is only making him more exposed but that is a testament of his character.

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jayshree1942

@jayshree1942

Voyager

Posted: 10 years ago

#109

Actually i feel writers r lost command on their writing now.

They should show Anandi and Shivam interaction and Anandi developing good values in Shivam .

But no such kind of scenes.

I just feel children r growing by their own.

No proper control by elders .

In one episode they show anandi doing social work when they remeber Anandi is suppose to give social message and then again she sits at badi haveli , no co-ordination in any scene.

Anandi is just crying but doing nothing to find her daughter. I think she will get up when writers feel now enough of small nandini torture , lets go a head.

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hisusmita

@hisusmita

Sparkler

Posted: 10 years ago

#110

Originally posted by: Missesha
@ Susmita,
The reasons for this outrage and concluding that Anandi has also failed as a mother to Shivam are:

- Anandi going back to BH and residing like a refugee when there was no need

- Keeping Shivam away from where he belongs to (both physically and emotionally) when there was no need.

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As a viewer, to me this story was largely about Anandi and Jagya and how they handled their lives due to good and bad effects of bal-vivah.

So if CVs think that Nandini's story will work just as Ja-An's did, then they are wrong big time.

This story would have been sold only if they showed a progressive widow in Anandi, who struggles to give the best to her children and what all she goes through to get there, with or without Shekhars. The emotional content of viewers lies with Anandi, not with Nandini.

Making her stay in BH is the most regressive step taken by makers, which does not justify Anandi's character, motives or decisions in any way. It rather imposes questions on her ability to become a good mother, her decision making skills and the concept of women-empowerment.

The current Anandi and the show does not make sense.

I dont know why the writer's think that showing Anandi this way will make her inspirational ?

Whoever is arguing here for and against Anandi. they all love Anandi. No one wants her to stay in BH. We all wanted her to be strong, determined when CVs have already taken the worst step of killing Shiv.

But what everyone understands dont know why the channel, PH , writer's dont understand that Anandi is very different. She just cant stay there.

If they brought her in Jaitsar after leap show a separate big house near BH

If they have to keep in BH with these stupid theories show that she is contributing in everything more than any one.

But by saying twice that she dont want to stay and she has to agree to her elder's wish they think they have done justice to her character.

Better they would have killed her with Shiv.

Shiv came like a hero , went away like a hero, rest all characters now became CVs puppet, story is going haywire

But I cant bash her saying she cant raise Shivam, or she is the reason for any disturbance if it happens between other couple.

If there is any prob between any couple no third person can be held responsible.

Third person can enter only if there is some gap. This is true for every relation.

She did raised Shivam like Amol. If any disturbance are shown that is becoz miscommunication and MU. not becoz of her.

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