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Muktchand

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Posted: 11 years ago

#201

Sanchi 's past surely dig while this Assault case in Court

Many things go against her Her Group Esp Saurabh knew What she has done with Ganga and her yet born kid...

After this Horrified incident...becoz her past records she will be regret it big time...

I am sure Saubrah Lawyer will convinced Court Sanchi is not trustworthy person

After paying biggest price Sanchi will pay price for past behavior too. Because that no one will trust this time Sanchi is telling truth abt Assault is happen without her consent.

But end of it proves no matter how badly behave Sanchi doesn't deserve to be treated like this

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leavesandwaves

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Posted: 11 years ago

#202

Certain things are really thought provoking.

Before artificial insemination and IV, it was penetration that mattered in a sexual assault or sexual relationship.

And women bearing children, not men.

Men being aggressive more than women. Cavemen dragging women by their hair. And now gangrapes and burning of women to erase evidence. Making MMS to blackmail.

Children are taught about good touch, bad touch. Good people and bad people as far as sexual assaults are concerned. Every third film has a rape and every second film has a vulgar item song.

Internet is being taken over by commercialism.

Working parents not able to give enough attention while non working parents too trusting.

Over and above society is full of underprivileged men roaming about and privileged men trying to find various ways of amusement.

The more stringent rules, the more resentment against the victim class.

We need less economic disparity, more opportunities, more valuebased education.

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bips

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Posted: 11 years ago

#203

I am not sure how the fan wars got dragged into this. jagya vs sanchi vs ganga vs gauri vs anandi.

for me it is simple. in respect of the original post I completely disagree that a victim of rape does not deserve compassion or sympathy just bec she is a horrid person herself. this attitude smacks of the regressive idea that rape is a punishment/karma for a woman's past actions or morality.

why is the wrongness of rape even open to interpretation or opinions

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leavesandwaves

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Posted: 11 years ago

#204

Originally posted by: bips
I am not sure how the fan wars got dragged into this. jagya vs sanchi vs ganga vs gauri vs anandi.

for me it is simple. in respect of the original post I completely disagree that a victim of rape does not deserve compassion or sympathy just bec she is a horrid person herself. this attitude smacks of the regressive idea that rape is a punishment/karma for a woman's past actions or morality.

why is the wrongness of rape even open to interpretation or opinions

Go on you progressive minded.

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leavesandwaves

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Posted: 11 years ago

#205

Progressive minds think that those who have a different take are regressive.

These progressive minds are as intolerant as Khaps.

In a democracy there are viewpoints, politically correct and politically not so correct.

Everyone condemns rape and rapists. That does not mean one has to sympathise with the victim always. While condemning rape is an universal obligation, doling out sympathy will be subjective choice. One can feel sorry, yet not sympathise.

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ButterflyOnRose

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Posted: 11 years ago

#206

Originally posted by: The_Alchemist.
And why is sa trying to kiss J (Not rape, as in this case) being compared to the situation where she was drugged and raped?

J happily had sex with two women (by the time he got engaged with sa,..now three, though 😳 )...he was never raped...he was only loved!! and sa stood starting at him when he pushed her away...she never tried to force him...so why is that being brought now 🤢 ?

🤢i think people didn't write so difficult to understand but what to expect as usual not understanding the comment and mocking J one two three 🥱

Edited by sidra08 - 11 years ago

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ButterflyOnRose

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Posted: 11 years ago

#207

Originally posted by: bips
I am not sure how the fan wars got dragged into this. jagya vs sanchi vs ganga vs gauri vs anandi.

i tell you why these fan wars are actually dragged These fan wars were bound to drag though i didn't write so difficult but don't know why my comment is only going in negative direction😕 Some people here who are now attacking the members and mocking their comments because they don't sympathize with Sanchi and some where it might be mentioned Karma is biting Sanchi i don't know about that 😕which is in target here these are same people who were being happy when Sa was raping Jagya i mean publicly trying to point fingers on his character and put him in jail for a false case They said karma is biting J even if Ira slapped him it was karma , Shiv pushed him karma , Sanchi the suffocating fiancee his karma in fact whatever wrong happened with J which should not have happened and was wrong morally , ethically was labelled as his karma He should suffer so now when same people are feeling bad for Sanchi and saying forget about her past whatever happened with her was wrong so only sympathize with her then this point is brought Even what happened with J was wrong too then why it was a pleasure then ?The fan wars came because of it i think😛

i am confused as to no single person is justifying what happened with Sanchi was right The matter is only of sympathy Some may sympathize with her , even cry for her some may not have that much sympathy for her counting her own blunders here for which she herself will cry and apologize so what is this so long argument for here in which members are attacked too😳

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bips

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Posted: 11 years ago

#208

Originally posted by: leavesandwaves
Progressive minds think that those who have a different take are regressive.

These progressive minds are as intolerant as Khaps.

In a democracy there are viewpoints, politically correct and politically not so correct.

Everyone condemns rape and rapists. That does not mean one has to sympathise with the victim always. While condemning rape is an universal obligation, doling out sympathy will be subjective choice. One can feel sorry, yet not sympathise.

how does one feel sorry yet not symapthise?
how does one condemn rape yet not sympathise with the victim?

how does one even demarcate the two. how to separate one from the other. oh! rape is bad let me condemn the rapist but chi-chi! I don't like the girl so she probably had it coming. is this how it works?

yes, we with progressive minds can usually spot a regressive attitude no matter how much it is sugar coated. bec no matter how you quote it that is what you were saying - that Sanchi is horrid (which she is) and hence she deserves it. you might use ifs and buts and politically correct words but that is what you were saying

l am open to all opinions and different viewpoints but the point is that rape is so horrific and cruel that there should be universal condemnation. we spend too much time focussing on the character and morals of the victims and end up justifying it. what it means is that rape is bad but it is more bad only when it happens to nice girls. when it happens to other horrible ones, it is a little ok. right ?

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ButterflyOnRose

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Posted: 11 years ago

#209

Originally posted by: reshmiroy2012
Sidra there are people who says Sanchi deserves this is it not another way to say that saurav was right to rape her just bcz u r anti sanchi u n ur fan group can voice ur opinion then why not us i feel if a girl can deserve being raped for being arrogant then same should be with ganga she was alsoclose with jagya when she was not divorced free entry to his bed room going out spending time alone under same roof when he was engaged she cqnbe called a character less woman she avoided the warning against bala so why separate rules is not that double standard

o please you can only talk about fan groups and all that 🥱

Ganga was no where warned in straight forward words Where she was warned can you elaborate me that you are talking on this and dragging her and talking about double standards ? Bala was showing himself to be her supporter Only once he tried to go over board when he touched her on her shoulder and she gave him disgusting look get away and he was i am sorry

Ganga's case is entirely different from this Ganga was an innocent woman not aware of how people are fooled in these situations? Mangalore was first time she stepped out in years alone? But in opposite Sanchi is a well educated so called modern girl Once saved from a narrow rape attempt , second her brother and sister in law lectured enough in colleges against rape She is already warned person if she will be so dumb people will criticize her Why cannot you comment anything beyond making every one JaGan fan and attacking them 🥱

Edited by sidra08 - 11 years ago

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Neha

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Posted: 11 years ago

#210

Sanchi has definitely suffered in this particular incident..no girl calls upon or deserves such barbaric acts n so even sanchi doesn't...saurabh n his gang deserve the maximum punishment so they do not dare to do to this another girl..period.. of course I sympathise to a certain extent..but holistic sympathy?? No IMO...

Let's keep aside sanchi seducing jagya n later trying every dirty trick in the book to destroy his n ganga s life..let's even forget her trying to put ganga n an unborn child to extreme risk n even praying for them to die..let's just judge sanchi on this issue... I just fail to realise why she needs to go to a remote secluded farmhouse ..taking care not to disclose her location... with a guy who was trying to get too close to her right in her home..???!!..n she wasn't comfortable right?? So y go..? what did she think this party will b all fun n dance..u gotta b kidding..no one can b that naive n dumb..n sanchi s not an adolescent whose actions can b overlooked.. her brains n sixth sense r they on a permanent vacation..? She just merrily walked into a trap inspite f all that education n exposure..!!

Cvs cud have stopped at a molested case n still shown sanchi fighting back for her dignity but they chose to show the extreme step guess cause no way else wud anyone feel anything for this girl..so yes sympathy hai but not complete..

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