Can't shyam be spared for one mistake?

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anwesha rath

@Anurulz

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Posted: 15 years ago

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i loved ur post diatom...a practical post which puts both points of view ahead..yes shyam goofed up big time..leaving ur wife alone in the hospital after she suffered a miscarriage..not done..i blame him for this action of his..bt yes,all tht sugna has done till date cnt be just waved away saying she suffered a lot..yes she did..and here at the risk of repeating myself i say tht the moment sugna decided to consummate her marriage wid shyam,she showed tht she has given shyam the place of a husband in her mind..AFTR tht NOT expecting shyam to have expectations is foolish...the guy had issues wid pratap only and only after this...if sugna was still attached to pratap thn she had no business consummating her marriage..tht just gives false hopes to her husband..i wud definitely blame sugna for still giving in to pratap's mother after all tht pratap's family did to her,shyam and varun..and blame shyam for listening to the spewed venom of his dear tauji who he knows nver has anything good to say abt sugna..

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167495

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Posted: 15 years ago

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Originally posted by: anu rulz

i loved ur post diatom...a practical post which puts both points of view ahead..yes shyam goofed up big time..leaving ur wife alone in the hospital after she suffered a miscarriage..not done..i blame him for this action of his..bt yes,all tht sugna has done till date cnt be just waved away saying she suffered a lot..yes she did..and here at the risk of repeating myself i say tht the moment sugna decided to consummate her marriage wid shyam,she showed tht she has given shyam the place of a husband in her mind..AFTR tht NOT expecting shyam to have expectations is foolish...the guy had issues wid pratap only and only after this...if sugna was still attached to pratap thn she had no business consummating her marriage..tht just gives false hopes to her husband..i wud definitely blame sugna for still giving in to pratap's mother after all tht pratap's family did to her,shyam and varun..and blame shyam for listening to the spewed venom of his dear tauji who he knows nver has anything good to say abt sugna..

still have feelings for pratap? r u for real?? she just went to a dead man's barsi, he is just in her sweet old memories, i dun understand how a dead man can compete wid an alive man!!

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anwesha rath

@Anurulz

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Posted: 15 years ago

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ok fanaa now ur kinda crossing the limits..i have my own opinion which am not going to change no matter how many threads u start the same argument..u have picked fights wid everyone on the forum..even those who are agreeing tht shyam made a mistake..only thng is sugna is not blameless either..having ur dead husband in ur "sweet dream" while being intimate wid ur husband according to me IS a cause for blame..bt ur going on and on in every thread abt how shaym is disgusting and sugna is blameless..in a relationship,no1 is faultless..and as far as having feelings are concerned,sugna has "feelings" for pratap's fricking family after all tht THEY have done to her and her family so i dnt think its incredible tht she has feelings for pratap..as far as whether am real,of course i am,as is every member on this forum..ur of an opinion and so are others,u cnt go arnd beating every one for what they think..

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Anu Elizabeth Antony

@Elizabeth Darcy

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Posted: 15 years ago

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Hello...I'm kinda new to the Balika Vadhu forum, but I have watched BV from time to time and I do like the serial 😊

Regarding this issue, I really think that the mess created between Shyam/Sugna is created by both of them, for expecting a great deal from each other AND for not speaking openly to each other.

I agree, Shyam DID know what he was getting into when he married Sugna, but again how old is he? I don't think he's more than 19/early 20s in age. In some ways Shyam's a man, but in others I feel he is still just a boy. I feel by being husband to Sugna he was not just desire-driven but also felt the need to live up to the ideals that his education had given him (which included feeling that widows had rights just like the next woman). But how often and how easy are ideals to live up to? After a while any normal being will want SOMETHING good to come out of the good s/he is doing, and Sugna constantly mentioning Pratap wasn't helping. I do agree though that Shyam was quite over-the-top with his accusations, but considering the consistency of his character before, was the man even in his senses when he said that? I think not. It was more or less a question of so much bad in their relationship that both Shyam and Sugna had reached breaking point.

Sugna made the similar mistake of not admitting to Shyam that:

1. Over and above everything, she was head over heels in love with him -- it's understood, but I don't think she openly told Shyam so, did she?

2. Even though she loves Shyam, Pratap is still a very important part of her life, but quite different now from the standing that Shyam now enjoys

Sugna should not have been as guarded -- yes, life has been hard on her and protecting her thoughts and feelings are more a part of Sugna as a survivor, but had she been at least a little more open, at least about the barsi and loving Shyam, it would have benefited her.

Add to this is also the fact that Shyam and Sugna are YOUNG! There's very little both know about life...and I think with the leap the two will also gain maturity and some understanding of the other person's troubles.

Sorry for the length of this post! I somehow always let my mouth run with me😛

Lizzy

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deepa43

@deepa43

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Posted: 15 years ago

#15

Elizabeth Darcy ........ I really Loved your post above..... absolutely agree with you!!

I think Shyam left Sugna at the hospital, only because of his fragile state of mind.

Shyam probably misunderstood Sugna and felt that .....

- Sugna would never ever wholeheartedly love him,

- She would only want to have pratap's child and not bear his child,

- Shyam felt his relationship with Sugna is hopeless.

In such a state of mind, Shyam was utterly devastated and wasn't able to think logically or straight. He felt there was nothing left and walked out.

Edited by deepa43 - 15 years ago

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big_vikrant_fan

@big_vikrant_fan

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Posted: 15 years ago

#16

Originally posted by: deepa43
Elizabeth Darcy ..... really loved your post...... absolutely agree with you!!

I think Shyam left Sugna at the hospital, only because of his fragile state of mind.

Shyam probably misunderstood Sugna and felt that .....

- Sugna would never ever wholeheartedly love him,

- She would only want to have pratap's child and not bear his child,

- Shyam felt his relationship with Sugna is hopeless.

In such a state of mind, Shyam was utterly devastated and wasn't able to think logically or straight. He felt there was nothing left and walked out.

i agree😊

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Anu Elizabeth Antony

@Elizabeth Darcy

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Posted: 15 years ago

#17

Originally posted by: deepa43
Elizabeth Darcy ........ really Loved your post...... absolutely agree with you!!

I think Shyam left Sugna at the hospital, only because of his fragile state of mind.

Shyam probably misunderstood Sugna and felt that .....

- Sugna would never ever wholeheartedly love him,

- She would only want to have pratap's child and not bear his child,

- Shyam felt his relationship with Sugna is hopeless.

In such a state of mind, Shyam was utterly devastated and wasn't able to think logically or straight. He felt there was nothing left and walked out.

Thanks 😳...somehow I'm reminded of Ajay Devgan's character Vanraj with regards to Shyam now -- yes, Vanraj did love Nandhini and was selfless, but he was constantly frustrated by her lack of response too. He loses temper a number of times in the movie.

At this point I think Shyam WANTS to believe he doesn't care about Sugna anymore because he can't bear to face the truth -- that what he really wanted was for Sugna to love him the way he loved her, that somewhere deep inside he really didn't want it any other way. Irony -- by the time Sugna makes it clear to him that she DID love him it was too late!

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deepa43

@deepa43

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Posted: 15 years ago

#18

Originally posted by: Elizabeth Darcy

Thanks 😳...somehow I'm reminded of Ajay Devgan's character Vanraj with regards to Shyam now -- yes, Vanraj did love Nandhini and was selfless, but he was constantly frustrated by her lack of response too. He loses temper a number of times in the movie.

At this point I think Shyam WANTS to believe he doesn't care about Sugna anymore because he can't bear to face the truth -- that what he really wanted was for Sugna to love him the way he loved her, that somewhere deep inside he really didn't want it any other way. Irony -- by the time Sugna makes it clear to him that she DID love him it was too late!

Loved your post Elizabeth Darcy..... ..totally agree with you .....

Yeah, Shyam's character is a lot like Ajay Devgan's character Vanraj in "Hum Dil De Chuke Sanam".

Edited by deepa43 - 15 years ago

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167495

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Posted: 15 years ago

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Originally posted by: anu rulz
ok fanaa now ur kinda crossing the limits..i have my own opinion which am not going to change no matter how many threads u start the same argument..u have picked fights wid everyone on the forum..even those who are agreeing tht shyam made a mistake..only thng is sugna is not blameless either..having ur dead husband in ur "sweet dream" while being intimate wid ur husband according to me IS a cause for blame..bt ur going on and on in every thread abt how shaym is disgusting and sugna is blameless..in a relationship,no1 is faultless..and as far as having feelings are concerned,sugna has "feelings" for pratap's fricking family after all tht THEY have done to her and her family so i dnt think its incredible tht she has feelings for pratap..as far as whether am real,of course i am,as is every member on this forum..ur of an opinion and so are others,u cnt go arnd beating every one for what they think..

geez!! i dun think sugna has mentioned pratap ever since they have consumated!!! and memories are memories she wud have memories of childhood also----but is that sumthing to be threatened about?? and shyyam shud take 80% of the blame because he has the one who has abandoned her! she is paying the price of being a woman!!!

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167495

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Posted: 15 years ago

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Originally posted by: Elizabeth Darcy

Thanks 😳...somehow I'm reminded of Ajay Devgan's character Vanraj with regards to Shyam now -- yes, Vanraj did love Nandhini and was selfless, but he was constantly frustrated by her lack of response too. He loses temper a number of times in the movie.

At this point I think Shyam WANTS to believe he doesn't care about Sugna anymore because he can't bear to face the truth -- that what he really wanted was for Sugna to love him the way he loved her, that somewhere deep inside he really didn't want it any other way. Irony -- by the time Sugna makes it clear to him that she DID love him it was too late!

please do not compare shyam's pathetic character to vanraj's in HDDCS---he was completely selfless and took his wife to her old lover just that she cud be happy, he was not sum psyhcopath that got crazy about a dead man and left his wife in the hospital, vanraj's character was beautiful! sooo amazing that it made nandani fall in love wid him---this is called selflessness, this is called pure love----shyam's character is completely contradictory to the character of vanraj!!

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