does Simran still loves Astha? - Page 2

Whatever Aastha did in the past was the part of her nature.No matter what will be the suitable time to tell her the truth,she will show the same aggressive reaction as everyone knows.So whats the use of hiding the truth for a long time when the reaction is so obvious, don't tell me Simran is waiting for a change in her nature which is absolutely impossible.Sometimes it takes a whole life for a person to change his/her emotional nature.
All those 18 years Aastha has been waiting for father's love,its so unfair to keep her away.Simran should tell her this good news right away.
And I think there is always a big difference for the love b/w real child and adopted child.If the adopted child is the only child in home then you can't notice but if the adopted child is living with the real children then parents love is always more for real children which is very natural.Sometimes parents give more love to adopted children just to cover the guilt of loving their real ones more .

Vazz, you are DEAD on.. I agree 100%.

Agreed Simran had said that Gudiya cannot replace Astha... what was the situation under which she said that? Her own daughter had died and now they want to accept Gudiya as Astha?

The topic of discussion is whether Simran has stopped loving Astha...

I do not think Gudiya had replaced Astha for Simran. Astha gave a direction to Simran's life. Simran has raised Astha as her daughter.. not like her daughter. There is a difference.

Hi guys!

I really think that Simran loves Aastha just as much as she love Sia.

What I don't understand is why she keep her away form the truth for so long? It doesn't make any sense to me.

Simran being wise as she has been shown in the show all along should realize that this is going to be devistating for Aastha to know that her step mom, real father and step sister have all been united and have all failed to let her know.

If I was in Aastha's shows dam right I would have some serious problems with the rest of my family. Aastha should have know about EVERYTHING the moment it happen.

Why does SIA have a right to know about Simran and Abhi's past and not Aastha???

Simran's excuse to keep Aastha from knowing the truth is not a valid one. Just becuase she thinks that Aastha is not mature enough to handle the truth is not reason enough to isolate her from her own father. This is so point less to me.

Thanks Vix.. our views are so similar... I have read your other posts too.

Simran is the only mother that Astha has known and Astha is the only daughter that Simran has known.

Everybody's views differ, but I strongly feel that a mother is a mother no matter what. There are step mothers who are not the best because they do not want to accept the step child. But in here Simran never had any hatred towards Astha.. she loved her and will continue to love her. She has loved Sia, just as much, even though she did not have her, and will continue to do so.

In your opinion, Simran will love Sia more than Astha, because, Sia is her blood and I believe that a mother has enough love and sense that she will not prioritize one child over the other.

Originally posted by: scorpio_pk

Whatever Aastha did in the past was the part of her nature.No matter what will be the suitable time to tell her the truth,she will show the same aggressive reaction as everyone knows.So whats the use of hiding the truth for a long time when the reaction is so obvious, don't tell me Simran is waiting for a change in her nature which is absolutely impossible.Sometimes it takes a whole life for a person to change his/her emotional nature.
All those 18 years Aastha has been waiting for father's love,its so unfair to keep her away.Simran should tell her this good news right away.
And I think there is always a big difference for the love b/w real child and adopted child.If the adopted child is the only child in home then you can't notice but if the adopted child is living with the real children then parents love is always more for real children which is very natural.Sometimes parents give more love to adopted children just to cover the guilt of loving their real ones more .

Please forgive me, but what makes you say that? That statement itself is an insult to every parent who has adopted a child for whatever reason. If he does not love the adopted, he is guilty, if he does, then he is covering up tracks? How many adopted child have you come across? Bringing up a child takes a huge lot more than just giving birth to him. Do you have a dog? If you have and love it, you will understand what I am trying to say. Loving someone is not subjected to blood relation always. Yes, it is possible to love one child more than the other, but it is not fr the reasons that you have stated above.

My best friend is an adopted child. She was the most difficult of teenager that I have come across. She had huge fights with her parents,especially mom, her brother, and I saw Aunty and her making up and making merry soon after, exactly what me and my mom did after every fight. She ruled the house, pampered silly and being a very beautiful girl, invited a lot of trouble for herself.

She got engaged young and married in her graduation year.Just before her marriage she came to know she was adopted. I saw her world tumble around her, become formal to her very parents and brother whom she made dance to her tunes all her life. I saw the pain that fine couple, the valiant brother went through to make her come back to her original form. My friend used to cry nights on my shoulders, even stayed at my place two successsive days after knowing the truth. She was hurt, let down, angry, yet at the same time grateful to her parents that they brought her up the way they did.......and beleive me, I saw Aunty cry and cry not because her daughter was angry, but because she had suddenly started feeling grateful to them........Aunty could not bear that she had become so formal.....

Unfortunately the marriage did not survive. She had to come back to her parents house. From there on the relation started coming back to normal.

Fortunately, she met someone whom she got married, and her parents were so happy that they made that the wedding of the town, and now she has two loveliest of daughters and their nani dotes on them......

The brother married too has kids and it's so nice to see the brother sister camaraderie back. I do think the time everybody was busy assuring that she might not be flesh and blood, but she is a daughter of the house none the less, the brother got neglected, probably felt angry even, but today I respect both of them even more.

The way Astha has behaved in the past has sent Simran into the backfoot. Has she not loved Astha, she would have breezed in happily with her own daughter on her arm, announcing it to the whole world and it's family that her daughter is back.......astha and her feelings be damned........

That she did not, is keeping her own daughter's happiness incomplete shows how much she is scared of loosing Astha. It's a fact that no time is right time, that no matter when Astha is told, she would react in the same selfish manner. And that is what Simran is afraid of, so she is just stalling the time so that she could at least enjoy some of Astha's love meanwhile and perhaps even hope that she would actually be mature enough to handle it.....

That madcap Radha has done a bad number on that spoiled brat......

Minnie, I am completely there with you... though I do not have a dog (just kidding 😊).

I have seen families where the couple adopted a child since they could not have one and later they were able to... but they did not love the other child less. My grandmother considers her step son her eldest son. I did not even know that my grandmother was a step grandmother to my cousins... that is what makes me believe that a mother has all the love she can give and not be partial with her kids.

It is not as if we are watching Cinderella and her step mother here... or snow white and her step mother...

Exceptional cases are everywhere, and I am not telling that Simran dont love Aastha but when compared to the real daughter, she is'nt doing justice to Aastha even if she is just stalling the time to enjoy her love. She won't be mature for a couple of years, so it means Simran wont tell her about her father.I don't think Radhaji had anything to do with Aastha's reaction.She is mature enough to use her own brain, take out conclusion from the bitter facts of life.
I still think parents love their real children more than the adopted ones,even if they dont show.

Minnie, Vazz, you are both reading my mind.

It's amazing, because I was an only child and I used to beg my parents to adopt, and so many times it didn't work out. After my brother died, my mom couldn't have more kids, and so they tried to adopt and each time we got close, my parents fell in love with that new baby or child and then some legality would make it fall through- I saw for atleast 5 years (I was around 7 until age 12) my parents would be devastated each time, because from the get go, they would love that new child so much. It was never less than me, it wasn't the same, because we were different people, but this doesn't mean it was less.

in the end, my dad asked my mom to give up her dream of adopting because it was too heartbreaking for them, so someday, I have to marry a guy with a bigger family;)

anyways, another example I will give you is this. The typical indian mentality is that you can only 'fall in love' once, and you can't get over your first love (think about Kkusum). A girl is always looked down upon if she has had more than 1 boyfriend or if her engagement has broken in the past. In other cultures, it's possible to fall in love more than once - and the person is not looked down upon. If you do have a relationship and you fall in love, if it doesn't work out and you fall in love again does it mean that the first love wasn't real? or that the second love is fake? no, because the love we have for each person is different. I can have 2 best friends and care about them differently. I can have 2 uncles and love them differently. One is not more or less, but it is DIFFERENT. This is what Sim and Aastha are experiencing.

I have to ask if the people who think there is a difference between "real" (and I CRINGE when I type that) ie biological children and adopted children have ever experienced loss or love or parenthood. I'm not a parent (except to my cat;)) but ...still, experiencing life by living it can give some insight about how the intricacies of relationships work.

Vix

Minnie

great stuff u wrote there - out of interest, can u tell us whether the brother was adopted as well?

And whether he was or not, how did he react to the situation..?

cheers