Astha- feel bad - Page 2

Originally posted by: scorpio_pk

In the same way ,in my opinion, Simran had no right to interfere in Neha's married life but she did. The story is all about what Simran did knowingly or unknowingly.Ajay Sinha is showing that nobody is perfect , everyone can make mistakes purposely or unknowingly but still everyone have their own view of taking circumstances, like Radhaji is somehow right if she thinks that Simran is responsible for her daughter's death becuz she lost her only daughter although Simran had no intention to do that but thats just Radhaji's point of view. In the same way if we put our feet in every character's shoes then we can realize that each of them is doing exactly what a normal person can do in the same situation.
I would never talk or will keep relation with a person who was the cause of my mother's unhappiness ,no matter how nice he/she would be with me.And also I would NEVER tolerate any woman's interference in my married life even if she is a good friend of my husband ,no matter how sincere she pretend to be with me but when it comes the matter of personal life, no normal woman can tolerate that.

just tell me one thing, how the hell was simran in Radha ji's eyes responsible for Neha's death?????? Did she cut Neha up, did she make her bleed till she was lifeless, did she overdose her with narcotics? I dont get the logic of this? The very Neha who died gave Gudiya to Simran and told her to bring her up, to model her afterr herself, Okay Astha can hate her, not talk to her , insult her but for Gods sake how can she or us hold her responsible for neha's dying???/Yes responsible for neha's unhappiness and insecurity maybe but her death?????wow thats some screwed up thinking.Again thats my opinion and you and the rest may think differently.If Neha thought simran was so interfereing why did'nt she change her doctor herself? why did'nt she ask her mom to bring up gudiya?????would any logical woman give her own flesh and blood to someone who ruined her happiness and peace of mind and so obviously wanted to steal her husband. it doesnt add up!!!!!!Neha would have seen to it that simran was kept as far away from Gudiya as possible and probably it would have been that way if the over zealous family members did'nt dump gudiya on simran.where was Radha ji's hostile attitude when neha confided in her? she just went and talked to simran cordially and she agreed to stay away from abhay and neha.After Neha's death radhaji sank her teeth into simran hook,line and sinker and till today hasnt taken them out. why give Astha more grief by revealing all the gory details , i think the knowledge that simran is not her mom was a big enough shock, she was still reeling from that and radha ji tells her about what happened which in her eyes is all warped up?If you love her you save her from more possible grief not add salt to the wound.Radha ji seems to be using astha as a weapon against simran and one of these days Astha too will realize that.

No matter whatever Aastha is doing with Simran is wrong but I BELIEVE that Simran was responsible for Neha's death, to kill someone is not just that you gave her poison or kill with a knife or shoot her with a pistol. Why Neha was having problems in her pregnancy? why not every woman die while giving birth to her baby? Thats not the only way to kill someone. Unhappiness and stress of her married life lead her to complications due to which she could'nt survive after giving birth to her baby. By giving her child to the lady who was the cause of unhappiness for her shows Neha's understanding and compromising nature, she would have sure that after her death Abhi will going to marry Simran, and despite of all conflicts b/w Simran and Neha, she knew that Simran is good by heart.
Radhaji was the witness of her daughter's lonliness and stress becuz of Simran thats why she is totally justify by calling her KILLER.We dont' have to find a logic in each character's deeds,thats pretty obvious.
Thats just my opinion ,dont' get so senti if someone is against Simran,everyone has own point of view and I am also not here to change the minds of some ppl & I wont change mine either.

radhaji is mentally retarded tat why she behaving tat way with simran , and in my opinion abhi was blamed in this problem couse if he had married simran nothing like this would happen .

Originally posted by: scorpio_pk

No matter whatever Aastha is doing with Simran is wrong but I BELIEVE that Simran was responsible for Neha's death, to kill someone is not just that you gave her poison or kill with a knife or shoot her with a pistol. Why Neha was having problems in her pregnancy? why not every woman die while giving birth to her baby? Thats not the only way to kill someone. Unhappiness and stress of her married life lead her to complications due to which she could'nt survive after giving birth to her baby. By giving her child to the lady who was the cause of unhappiness for her shows Neha's understanding and compromising nature, she would have sure that after her death Abhi will going to marry Simran, and despite of all conflicts b/w Simran and Neha, she knew that Simran is good by heart.
Radhaji was the witness of her daughter's lonliness and stress becuz of Simran thats why she is totally justify by calling her KILLER.We dont' have to find a logic in each character's deeds,thats pretty obvious.
Thats just my opinion ,dont' get so senti if someone is against Simran,everyone has own point of view and I am also not here to change the minds of some ppl & I wont change mine either.

So every woman who is depressed or unhappy during her pregnancy dies? Many woman die in childbirth, I am witness to that in our very family

a relative of ours died because of some complications, depression and unhappiness can take away your will to live but dont kill u unless u committ suicide? there have to be medical reasons to support Neha's death during child birth, she did'nt die just because she was unhappy or stressed, If one is unhappy in life u fight with your circumstances , you dont just give up and just die, Neha was weak, insecure and just gave up , but that certainly did'nt cause medical problems in her pregnancy. Anyway i think we just have to agree to disagree and put an end to this discussion in an amicable way. I remain steadfast in my views and i assure you that i respect your point of view as well.

Ciao and peace

Originally posted by: eirah

radhaji is mentally retarded tat why she behaving tat way with simran , and in my opinion abhi was blamed in this problem couse if he had married simran nothing like this would happen .

I agree, Abhay was the root cause of all problems, his affair, his lack of responsibility, we all knnow he wasnt in love with neha, simran talked him into marrying her(stupid of simran) , why could'nt he use his own mind? and the worst was leaving Simran alone in the temple waiting for him, still grieving for her dead daughter and agreeing to bring up Gudiya all on her own.what kind of penance is that? thats a self defeatist and escapist behavior, Imagine not meeting his old parents, his daughter and simran for 18 years?? and he says hes repenting its a self imposed punishment and one day a young girl comes into his life full of adulation and awe struck by him and he decides to dedicate a book to her, he needs serious help really!!!!

In Neha's case ,that was pretty obvious that she was in stress and thats why she got pains before the time,they never mentioned any other reason for her death.Stress and tension in pregnancy can lead to such complications which we can't even imagine.

😛 I must say that u r a big fan of Dr.Simran but as I said before everyone have their own point of views which can't be changed just by reading discussions in these forums. So just chill and have fun 😃

Hey guys, this is really nice !!!! After a long trime I am feeling like posting something.

I never felt Simran was the cause of Neha's death. In my opinion, if anyone is to blame for Neha's condition, it was 100% Abhi and Neha herself. They both married each other knowing fully well that the guy is blind about Dr Simran, would probably would have jumped into a well had she siad so. Neha, in her eagerness to sink her teeth into Abhi's life, went ahead and jumped into matrimony without reading the loud red signs of Abhi's mental state as far as Simran was concerned. Heck, he used to be glued to Simran day in day out, how in the world did she ever think she could possibly get him out of it, especially when the couple had a kid?? The less I say about Abhi, the better. When with Simran, he thought about Kiran, when with Kiran, he thought about Simran, when with Neha, he thought about Simran and then when with Simran thought about Neha and in the process singlehandedly destroyed 5 lives without a blink and possibly would have destroyed Sia's too had not Ajay Sinha (the GOD) intervened to reveal the true identity of her father...........

The nature of intent depends on the fact whether the act is being done to take out some form of vengeince or simply as a form of activity that is being taken in some other way. No matter how much she meddled in Neha and Abhi's affair, the fact remained that Simran never wished them ill, as a human she did feel the loss as she never got over her love for Abhi, but she never resented Neha and Abhi their happiness. The very reason she decided to move away from them both once she came to know how much her involvement hurt Neha. At that point, it would have been futile to make Abhi see this reason as he would have taken it out on Neha and not realise it because she was alive and with him. The moron realised his mistake only because the poor girl had died. Had she been alive, he would have gone screaming to her telling her how could she sink so low and blame Simran for her unhappiness bla bla.....

Simran on the other hand tried to please the whole world at the cost of her own happiness, a fact which Neha realised, and the reason why she ultimately decided to rectify her mistakes by asking Simran to bring up Gudiya. This was understood by Radha and Poonam too, but Radha once again obviously lost her mental balance completely after she lost her daughter and was looking for a scapegoat and Simran conviniently was there......

As for Astha, it was sure a big shock for her to know that so much had been hid from her.......but to suddenly reject someone who had loved and supported her unconditionally all her life ,instead blindly beleive someone she never ever knew and become so vicious against a mother who so obviously doted on her without even bothering to hear her side of the story actually shows how spoilt she really is, and she seriously needs a tight slap to bring her to her senses & manners and make her see a world beyond her own............

Originally posted by: scorpio_pk

In Neha's case ,that was pretty obvious that she was in stress and thats why she got pains before the time,they never mentioned any other reason for her death.Stress and tension in pregnancy can lead to such complications which we can't even imagine.

😛 I must say that u r a big fan of Dr.Simran but as I said before everyone have their own point of views which can't be changed just by reading discussions in these forums. So just chill and have fun 😃

Hi,

Yeah i am a big fan of simran not literally simran but women like her, and i have always maintained that your mileage may vary but I am pretty well set on my stance and am quite well chilled , altho some people here esp astha, neha and radha ji fans sure need a few chill pills themselves.You too have fun dear and hope these discussions haven' t offended you in any way, shape or form , after all this is what forums are for , a healthy interaction of views without being nasty and i do think we have maintained a cordial tone thruout these discussions however strongly we

may have felt about certain issues. I just hope you dont think its unhealthy to admire women like simran !!!!!!I do and am not ashamed of the fact.

peace

Originally posted by: Minnie

Hey guys, this is really nice !!!! After a long trime I am feeling like posting something.

I never felt Simran was the cause of Neha's death. In my opinion, if anyone is to blame for Neha's condition, it was 100% Abhi and Neha herself. They both married each other knowing fully well that the guy is blind about Dr Simran, would probably would have jumped into a well had she siad so. Neha, in her eagerness to sink her teeth into Abhi's life, went ahead and jumped into matrimony without reading the loud red signs of Abhi's mental state as far as Simran was concerned. Heck, he used to be glued to Simran day in day out, how in the world did she ever think she could possibly get him out of it, especially when the couple had a kid?? The less I say about Abhi, the better. When with Simran, he thought about Kiran, when with Kiran, he thought about Simran, when with Neha, he thought about Simran and then when with Simran thought about Neha and in the process singlehandedly destroyed 5 lives without a blink and possibly would have destroyed Sia's too had not Ajay Sinha (the GOD) intervened to reveal the true identity of her father...........

The nature of intent depends on the fact whether the act is being done to take out some form of vengeince or simply as a form of activity that is being taken in some other way. No matter how much she meddled in Neha and Abhi's affair, the fact remained that Simran never wished them ill, as a human she did feel the loss as she never got over her love for Abhi, but she never resented Neha and Abhi their happiness. The very reason she decided to move away from them both once she came to know how much her involvement hurt Neha. At that point, it would have been futile to make Abhi see this reason as he would have taken it out on Neha and not realise it because she was alive and with him. The moron realised his mistake only because the poor girl had died. Had she been alive, he would have gone screaming to her telling her how could she sink so low and blame Simran for her unhappiness bla bla.....

Simran on the other hand tried to please the whole world at the cost of her own happiness, a fact which Neha realised, and the reason why she ultimately decided to rectify her mistakes by asking Simran to bring up Gudiya. This was understood by Radha and Poonam too, but Radha once again obviously lost her mental balance completely after she lost her daughter and was looking for a scapegoat and Simran conviniently was there......

As for Astha, it was sure a big shock for her to know that so much had been hid from her.......but to suddenly reject someone who had loved and supported her unconditionally all her life ,instead blindly beleive someone she never ever knew and become so vicious against a mother who so obviously doted on her without even bothering to hear her side of the story actually shows how spoilt she really is, and she seriously needs a tight slap to bring her to her senses & manners and make her see a world beyond her own............

BINGO!!!!!!!some logic i agree with completely.